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Name: Bert Location: North Alabama Joined: 2008-02-03 Post Count: 1486 Contribution: 4133 Integrity: 22
 | Subject: CD Player Error Message...E 20 ? Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:11 pm | |
| CD player has quit on the 99 Riv. Approx. ten seconds after inserting a CD it gives the Error message E 20 then ejects the CD. I searched and found a list that basically said try a new CD, clean the CD then if the problem persists to have the unit serviced... Any tips? Thanks Bert  _________________ 99 Riviera(on the left) "Cruising Missile" Midnight Blue Pearl 90,000 miles GuttedAirBox  70GS455(on the right) Diplomat Blue "Howitzer with windshield wipers" |
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Name: Location: Finger Lakes of New York State Joined: 2007-05-31 Post Count: 2052 Contribution: 2496 Integrity: 29
 | Subject: Re: CD Player Error Message...E 20 ? Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:44 pm | |
| Here is the best (high quality at relatively low price) repair shop I know of. They will repair your unit or swap for an overhauled unit from their stock. You probably want an overhauled unit. http://www.unitedradio.com/docs/AF72-01d.pdfYOu can browse them at http://www.unitedradio.com/Albertj _________________ 1998 with all fac. opts. (exc. CD changer and subwoofer); 209,000 miles. Mods: KYB front struts, extra noise barriers, fire extinguisher, Magnecor 8mm plug wires, 4-note horn, custom-made stainless exhaust.
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Name: Rick Location: Lancaster, MA Joined: 2008-09-13 Post Count: 2693 Contribution: 3722 Integrity: 31
 | Subject: Re: CD Player Error Message...E 20 ? Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:48 am | |
| Just something to try before sending it out for exchange..... Did you try removing power to the radio for a while and then restoring power to see if it clears the code.? You can remove power by removing the fuse, BUT FIRST you must be sure the radios Anti-Theft feature is disabled. You can tell if the Anti- Theft feature is on or off by the small red LED light located below and to the right of the volume control knob. If the light flashes continuously with radio off then the feature is enabled. You need to disable it first. Look in your owners manual for the procedure. If you don't disable this feature, and remove power to the radio, when you reinstall the fuse you will be locked out of the radio completely and render it useless. Then you will have to bring it to the Stealership and have a Tech ll hooked up to clear it. If you see no light flashing at all on the face of the radio then the feature has already been disabled. At this point remove fuse for a about an hour and plug it back in to see if your CD code has cleared. If it hasn't then ship it out per Albert's advise for overhaul exchange. _________________ 98 Riv, 102K Miles, EBC, LS1 Ft.Calipers, STB, Addco Rr Sway Bar, 180* stat., SSAC Headers, HF Cat, 1.9's, 105# springs, MPS 3.4, DHP tuned by the Deekster.
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Name: Location: Finger Lakes of New York State Joined: 2007-05-31 Post Count: 2052 Contribution: 2496 Integrity: 29
 | Subject: Re: CD Player Error Message...E 20 ? Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:26 am | |
| Ahem... actually, you can disable and reenable Theftlock on our radios yourself. The newer GM factory radios are programmed to each vehicle's VIN, will only lock up if you try installing them in a different car whereupon they see a VIN mismatch. The only way around that particular issue is with a GM TECH II tool or the GM service software. Ours is an older Theftlock, and to re-enable the radio you need a telephone and these instructions: http://www.articlesbase.com/automotive-articles/how-to-unlock-gm-theftlock-radios-842374.htmlOr these: http://batboard.batlabs.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=77426I am embarrassed to admit I actually had to do this (the 800 number thing) once, I forgot to disable Theftlock before I disconnected the battery during maintenance on a Saturday evening before a road trip, and needed to listen to some 'continuing education' material while on the trip, for work. I think it is very kind of GM to permit this work around, and I am sure that it saves dealers a lot of hassle. It really helped me in a pinch. The funny thing about Theftlock is... it works okay, but I wonder whether there was ever a street market for these radios? I also think that I or someone else may have already posted such instructions on this editboard. Don't remember... Albertj _________________ 1998 with all fac. opts. (exc. CD changer and subwoofer); 209,000 miles. Mods: KYB front struts, extra noise barriers, fire extinguisher, Magnecor 8mm plug wires, 4-note horn, custom-made stainless exhaust.
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Name: Rick Location: Lancaster, MA Joined: 2008-09-13 Post Count: 2693 Contribution: 3722 Integrity: 31
 | Subject: Re: CD Player Error Message...E 20 ? Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:04 pm | |
| I Paid the dealer for the Tech ll time. I thought the 800 number was only available to the dealers. I remember it being used occasionally while i worked at a GM dealership. I personally never had to use it so that's why I thought it was a dealer only thing. Or maybe i was confused about the early systems and the newer Anti-Theft systems that require the dealer mech to get a code via the 800 # and using the Tech II to unlock a radio. Oh well, learn something new every day. Only worked in the service dept for a about a year as Service Manager, my first stint at a GM dealership, before partnering with the owner on another business venture. That position, the Service Manager, was to keep me busy while we developed a solid business plan. _________________ 98 Riv, 102K Miles, EBC, LS1 Ft.Calipers, STB, Addco Rr Sway Bar, 180* stat., SSAC Headers, HF Cat, 1.9's, 105# springs, MPS 3.4, DHP tuned by the Deekster.
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Name: Dave Location: Weymouth, MA Joined: 2009-01-01 Post Count: 104 Contribution: 552 Integrity: 3
 | Subject: Re: CD Player Error Message...E 20 ? Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:35 pm | |
| Bert, A few years ago my wife drove a 96 riv that would occasionally display the e20 code from the cd player. It would happen more often after a rain. I seem to remember that it indicated there was moisture in the player or on the cd itself (she stored her cd's in the car). When this would happen, she'd take a cd from the house, insert it in the player and it would play. Just some food for thought. _________________ Ship ROA New England Region BCA Minuteman Chapter 92 Riv coupe Midnight Blue 92 Riv coupe Ruby Red w/White Interior  |
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Name: Rick Location: Lancaster, MA Joined: 2008-09-13 Post Count: 2693 Contribution: 3722 Integrity: 31
 | Subject: Re: CD Player Error Message...E 20 ? Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:41 pm | |
| Bert, With all the humidity this time of year....have you ever had this issue pop up before that you can remember. If the lens in the CD player gets fogged up for any reason you'll get a code but it would go away once you've had the AC on for a while and dehumidified the interior. _________________ 98 Riv, 102K Miles, EBC, LS1 Ft.Calipers, STB, Addco Rr Sway Bar, 180* stat., SSAC Headers, HF Cat, 1.9's, 105# springs, MPS 3.4, DHP tuned by the Deekster.
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|  | | albertj Addict
Name: Location: Finger Lakes of New York State Joined: 2007-05-31 Post Count: 2052 Contribution: 2496 Integrity: 29
 | Subject: Re: CD Player Error Message...E 20 ? Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:46 pm | |
| | Rickw wrote: | I Paid the dealer for the Tech ll time. I thought the 800 number was only available to the dealers. I remember it being used occasionally while i worked at a GM dealership. I personally never had to use it so that's why I thought it was a dealer only thing. Or maybe i was confused about the early systems and the newer Anti-Theft systems that require the dealer mech to get a code via the 800 # and using the Tech II to unlock a radio. Oh well, learn something new every day. Only worked in the service dept for a about a year as Service Manager, my first stint at a GM dealership, before partnering with the owner on another business venture. That position, the Service Manager, was to keep me busy while we developed a solid business plan. |
The newer systems don't have this work around.
Albertj _________________ 1998 with all fac. opts. (exc. CD changer and subwoofer); 209,000 miles. Mods: KYB front struts, extra noise barriers, fire extinguisher, Magnecor 8mm plug wires, 4-note horn, custom-made stainless exhaust.
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Name: Bert Location: North Alabama Joined: 2008-02-03 Post Count: 1486 Contribution: 4133 Integrity: 22
 | Subject: Re: CD Player Error Message...E 20 ? Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:58 pm | |
| Thanks for all the info guys. I pulled the fuse for an hour and it still gives a E-20 error message. I guess its "had the lick" and needs repaired. Bert  _________________ 99 Riviera(on the left) "Cruising Missile" Midnight Blue Pearl 90,000 miles GuttedAirBox  70GS455(on the right) Diplomat Blue "Howitzer with windshield wipers" |
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Name: Bert Location: North Alabama Joined: 2008-02-03 Post Count: 1486 Contribution: 4133 Integrity: 22
 | Subject: Re: CD Player Error Message...E 20 ? Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:14 pm | |
| Bought a replacement unit from Morads and had a local body shop owner install it, probelm solved. Now if I could just figure out how to repair the heated seat element/wiring(driver side)... Bert  _________________ 99 Riviera(on the left) "Cruising Missile" Midnight Blue Pearl 90,000 miles GuttedAirBox  70GS455(on the right) Diplomat Blue "Howitzer with windshield wipers" |
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Name: Dale Age: 48 Location: Minneapolis, MN Joined: 2008-11-04 Post Count: 185 Contribution: 491 Integrity: 0
 | Subject: Re: CD Player Error Message...E 20 ? Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:07 am | |
| Mine is fussy too. If temps are cold, good luck getting even a new CD to play. If it is a hot summer day I can play anything I want. Most of the time, I have to re-insert the cd several times before it will play. Cleaning it helped some. I'm going to replace it at some point. Running over even the slightest crack in the road will often make it skip, which is far more annoying than E20.  _________________ DaleGutted box. 180* Stat. 104 plugs. Current Rivieras. 1970, 1996 SC. Long lost Rivieras. 1966 GS clone, 1970, 1990.  |
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Name: Bert Location: North Alabama Joined: 2008-02-03 Post Count: 1486 Contribution: 4133 Integrity: 22
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Name: Location: Finger Lakes of New York State Joined: 2007-05-31 Post Count: 2052 Contribution: 2496 Integrity: 29
 | Subject: Re: CD Player Error Message...E 20 ? Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:52 am | |
| | Rickw wrote: | I Paid the dealer for the Tech ll time. I thought the 800 number was only available to the dealers. I remember it being used occasionally while i worked at a GM dealership. I personally never had to use it so that's why I thought it was a dealer only thing. Or maybe i was confused about the early systems and the newer Anti-Theft systems that require the dealer mech to get a code via the 800 # and using the Tech II to unlock a radio. Oh well, learn something new every day. Only worked in the service dept for a about a year as Service Manager, my first stint at a GM dealership, before partnering with the owner on another business venture. That position, the Service Manager, was to keep me busy while we developed a solid business plan. |
it sort of is dealer only - but our cars are not of interest for this thing and as long as no one's a jerk about it I suspect that GM will leave teh work-around alone. Believe me, if they were not happy about it they'd disconnect the number. Also - just bear in mind that each time you call an 800 number your phone number is logged for the 800 number owner. It would not surprise me if frequent users got callbacks or blocks.
Albert _________________ 1998 with all fac. opts. (exc. CD changer and subwoofer); 209,000 miles. Mods: KYB front struts, extra noise barriers, fire extinguisher, Magnecor 8mm plug wires, 4-note horn, custom-made stainless exhaust.
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