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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:25 pm

Front or rear? I have some extra front brackets and poly bushings.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:28 pm

i bought the front bar, but i'll have the rear one soon (if i can find one).

are they greasable bushings?

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:51 pm

deekster_caddy wrote:
Front or rear? I have some extra front brackets and poly bushings.

Do you have the spacer plates that I've read about on this thread or did you just make some from flat stock or are they even necessary?
That was three questions in one.!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:58 pm

Mr.Riviera wrote:
i bought the front bar, but i'll have the rear one soon (if i can find one).

are they greasable bushings?


Matt, where are you finding these bars? I was looking a while back and kept coming up empty.
I looked at Carpart.com for nationwide junk yard search and EBay for a few weeks and found nothing.
I was promised a rear STS bar a short time ago but that fell through so I ordered a rear Addco from Summit for about $150.00 and 4 week back order, just received it. Came with no brackets, just OEM bushings, not Poly.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:12 pm

i got lucky with the sts front bar on ebay.
gmpartsdirect lists the front for $98, but i dont know if they still stock it.

so you have the rear bar and i have the front bar...rock paper scissors? lol

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:53 pm

Hang on, are you guys talking about the addco sway bar, or the caddy strut tower brace?

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:23 pm

I was talking about the Sway Bars.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:35 pm

Rickw wrote:
I was talking about the Sway Bars.


For the front sway bars I have extra poly bushings (not greasable) and the brackets. The brackets come with a flat spacer that holds the bushing up, so the bushing doesn't fall down into that hole where the OEM bushing sits. It's a regular D shaped poly bushing.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:43 pm

deekster_caddy wrote:
Rickw wrote:
I was talking about the Sway Bars.


For the front sway bars I have extra poly bushings (not greasable) and the brackets. The brackets come with a flat spacer that holds the bushing up, so the bushing doesn't fall down into that hole where the OEM bushing sits. It's a regular D shaped poly bushing.

Derek,
A while back you gave me a box with front brackets and bushings for an Addco bar, did not include the flat spacers though. That's why I was asking if you just made them or what.
I know when ordering the new Addco bars for the front they will NOT come with the brackets anymore. You guys had to fight with Addco and NEA to get what you needed at the time of the GB.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:52 pm

i was talking about the caddy seville sway bar.
it's a 30mm bar for the front, not as good as the addco bars, but much more affordable.
if your bushings are for the addco bars then i dont think i can use them b/c the addco bars are 32mm IIRC.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:14 am

Rickw wrote:
deekster_caddy wrote:
Rickw wrote:
I was talking about the Sway Bars.


For the front sway bars I have extra poly bushings (not greasable) and the brackets. The brackets come with a flat spacer that holds the bushing up, so the bushing doesn't fall down into that hole where the OEM bushing sits. It's a regular D shaped poly bushing.

Derek,
A while back you gave me a box with front brackets and bushings for an Addco bar, did not include the flat spacers though. That's why I was asking if you just made them or what.
I know when ordering the new Addco bars for the front they will NOT come with the brackets anymore. You guys had to fight with Addco and NEA to get what you needed at the time of the GB.


hmmm. I'll take a look in the garage. I thought they all had the flat spacers. The thing is useless without them. But in all reality, it's just a simple thin piece of flat stock with holes (slots) for the bolts to go through. Not rocket science.

It's really too bad Addco was doing the right thing, then they stopped.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:20 pm

Woot! just finished installing my caddy STS front sway bar.
Spent some time trying to finesse the bar out, took a long think break, and some more wiggle time to get the old bar out. I did end up lowering the sub frame. I dont have headers, just the zzp 3" DP and there wasnt enough room to get it out.

Defiantly a beefier bar, and i'll take it for a test run in the morning.

sorry Rick, but it fits the 96's like a glove. i'll keep an eye out for another one for you. now if i could only find a rear bar...

I painted it red to match the other stuff on the car that is red (calipers, end links, other stuff i cant think of).



Hope i dont understeer into a guard rail now lol

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:25 pm

I'm glad it worked out for you. Definitely let us know how it feels after driving it for a while.
Did your stock brackets work with the larger bushing or did you get larger brackets with it?

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:37 pm

i used the stock brackets and the larger bushings that came with the bar. the rubber was in good shape still and i dont need any more suspension squeak from poly.
oh, and now that i'm not selling it i'll let you guys know what i paid for it...$29 SHIPPED!

i couldnt wait till morning, and just went on a quick trip around the block. Seems to corner easier, at about 3mph higher than before, and it seemed to lessen the jarring of little bumps. (last one could have been my imagination)
i'll give another update after driving on it for awhile through some hard turns.
i'd say it is compareable with the improvement of the STB. i'd like to see how much the rear helps too.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Front/Rear Stabilizer Bar Installation   Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:41 pm

The rear will be more noticeable as it helps with the inherent understeer these cars have. Will carve the corner better.

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