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95 super3800 Newbie
Name: MacLain Age: 33 Location: Pittsburgh PA Joined: 2008-03-19 Post Count: 12 Contribution: 628 Integrity: 0
 | Subject: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:30 pm | |
| hello everyone, I have 96 sc. I'm looking for a write up on the site on how to flush my coolant. i'm not overheating or anything but I the coolant just looks nasty. Also theres a lot of muck getting built up on the inside of my coolant resevior. I could take it to get done, but I enjoy learning how to work on my car so if anyone could direct me to a link or a write up I would be greatfull. thanks |
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Name: Andrew Age: 25 Location: Ontario, Canada Joined: 2008-01-14 Post Count: 640 Contribution: 1071 Integrity: 14
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:53 pm | |
| How to flush a rad: 1. Climb under car and remove the little plastic faseners that holds the bottom plastic guard on. A rough guess wuld be that there are 9-10 of them. You pull the plastic center, and the rest of the clip comes out of the hole. 2. Remove plastic guard from the bottom. 3. Facing the front of the car, on the right, under where you removed the plastic, is a hole for the rad drain bung. Remove the bung and let the coolant run into a shallow bucket. 4. Dump in a container of something like Prestone Rad flush. 5. Top up with water. 6. Run the engine, for around 15 min with the heater on full plast. 7. Let car cool. 8. Drain rad again. Replace bung. 9. Remove the coolant canister and rinse out with a hose if desired. 10. Fill with new coolant following the reccomened mix on the bottle. I use prestone "mixes with anything" stuff. 11. Top up the coolant canister to the cold mark. 12. Open the little valve on the LIM where the large coolant hose enters it. It will be on your right, by the boost bypass actuator. Near the EGR on the 95. There is a little screw for bleeding out air, slot screwdriver opens it. 13. Run the engine, wait for spitting on the little valve. Close valve. 14. Let engine run for a bit. Cool. Open Valve again, repeat engine run till water comes out valve. Thats about it, off the top of my head. I do have a folder full of pics from my rad change that documents the same procedure, that will eventually end up in a write-up when I find time. _________________  |
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Name: Derek Age: 37 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-02-01 Post Count: 4446 Contribution: 3570 Integrity: 28
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:52 pm | |
| good writeup on flushing, but here's what I'd do if I were you: drain the radiator. Add RMI25 according to instructions on bottle (a good cleaning solution and lubricant) Refill with proper 50/50 mix (use distilled water for that 50) repeat next year. I've never been a fan of flushing the system. _________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
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Name: Bert Location: North Alabama Joined: 2008-02-03 Post Count: 1486 Contribution: 4183 Integrity: 22
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:37 pm | |
| Here are a few pics I took while draining/refilling the coolant on the 99 Riv today. Hopefully they will help someone. The radiator drain bung is kind of hard to spot so here are a couple of pics of what the little bugger looks like after it is removed from the radiator.   Here is a pic of the bleeder screw:  And a pic of the chin spoiler/belly pan that must be removed to gain access to the radiator drain bung:  The chin spoiler/belly pan is a lot easier to remove/reinstall than it looks. It only takes a couple of minutes to remove or to reinstall. Bert  _________________ 99 Riviera(on the left) "Cruising Missile" Midnight Blue Pearl 90,000 miles GuttedAirBox  70GS455(on the right) Diplomat Blue "Howitzer with windshield wipers" |
|  | | Rickw Addict
Name: Rick Location: Lancaster, MA Joined: 2008-09-13 Post Count: 2695 Contribution: 3725 Integrity: 31
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:22 pm | |
| Looks like the weather was nice there today for working on the car. It's been snowing and raining and snowing here all day. And it's only the middle of October !!!!!! _________________ 98 Riv, 102K Miles, EBC, LS1 Ft.Calipers, STB, Addco Rr Sway Bar, 180* stat., SSAC Headers, HF Cat, 1.9's, 105# springs, MPS 3.4, DHP tuned by the Deekster.
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|  | | Jack the R Addict

Joined: 2007-01-17 Post Count: 3824 Contribution: 2556 Integrity: 22
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:31 pm | |
| How much radiator fluid does the Riv take? |
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Name: Rick Location: Lancaster, MA Joined: 2008-09-13 Post Count: 2695 Contribution: 3725 Integrity: 31
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:57 am | |
| Just about 2 gallons in my experience. One gallon of anti-freeze and one gallon of water. I pre-mix the two or you can buy the Anti-Freeze already pre-mixed at the auto parts store. Just look for 50/50 on the bottle. Then you just have to put it in and not be concerned with mixing it. _________________ 98 Riv, 102K Miles, EBC, LS1 Ft.Calipers, STB, Addco Rr Sway Bar, 180* stat., SSAC Headers, HF Cat, 1.9's, 105# springs, MPS 3.4, DHP tuned by the Deekster.
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Name: Mark Location: The "other" side of the Golden Gate. Joined: 2009-04-10 Post Count: 423 Contribution: 848 Integrity: 25
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:22 am | |
| | Rickw wrote: | Looks like the weather was nice there today for working on the car. It's been snowing and raining and snowing here all day. And it's only the middle of October !!!!!! |
Things are weird out here on the left coast, too... Last week we got 6 inches of rain in 1 day, and this morning the "few showers" that were forecast dropped 1.5 inches in 2 HOURS! In SF, water was gushing out of manhole covers. _________________ 97 Riviera L67 - Desert Sandstone - Gutted AB Lid, Kool Blue AF, 180* SuperStat, Hogan 3" DP, ZZP 3.6" MPS; Sensa-Trac struts, Rockford-Fosgate 6x9's; Annoyance-Fixes: Express-Down delete, Full-time juice to Power Port, BRP-power to Glovebox lite, Brake-to-Shift delete, Console-compartment lite, Seat/Mirror Memory in any gear.
69 Wildcat Convertible, 430" QJet - Burgundy/Black - P/Win, P/Seat, P/Ant, Tilt, Cruise, Remote Trunk, Rallyes, AM/FM Mono!
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Name: Mark Location: The "other" side of the Golden Gate. Joined: 2009-04-10 Post Count: 423 Contribution: 848 Integrity: 25
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:57 am | |
| | Rickw wrote: | I pre-mix the two or you can buy the Anti-Freeze already pre-mixed at the auto parts store. Just look for 50/50 on the bottle. Then you just have to put it in and not be concerned with mixing it. |
Rick makes a good point. If you don't buy pre-mixed, or pre-mix it yourself, you'll inevitably find yourself with either too much or not enough anti-freeze in, when the system stops accepting any more...
When I flushed the hell out of my car to convert it back to trustworthy green coolant, I'm pretty sure it took more than two gallons (it's rated for 3.) However, being a cheapskate, I figured the cheap and fairly easy thing to do is this:
Buy 2 gallons of the regular full-strength anti-freeze and 2 gallons of distilled water; Start the engine and pour one gallon of anti-freeze and one gallon of water into the empty radiator; If the car won't accept any more when the thermostat opens, you can return the second anti-freeze - otherwise, Pour half of the 2nd water bottle into the empty coolant jug and then top it off from the 2nd anti-freeze bottle; Pour the rest of the water into the 2nd anti-freeze bottle, and now you've got 2 gallons of pre-mixed, 1 more for the radiator and one for topping up later.
I know it sounds a little Die Hard 3/Simon Sez, but you'll have spent (at the minimum prices) only $20 for 4 gallons of mix, instead of $30 for 3 gallons of pre-mix... Who doesn't like half price?  _________________ 97 Riviera L67 - Desert Sandstone - Gutted AB Lid, Kool Blue AF, 180* SuperStat, Hogan 3" DP, ZZP 3.6" MPS; Sensa-Trac struts, Rockford-Fosgate 6x9's; Annoyance-Fixes: Express-Down delete, Full-time juice to Power Port, BRP-power to Glovebox lite, Brake-to-Shift delete, Console-compartment lite, Seat/Mirror Memory in any gear.
69 Wildcat Convertible, 430" QJet - Burgundy/Black - P/Win, P/Seat, P/Ant, Tilt, Cruise, Remote Trunk, Rallyes, AM/FM Mono!
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Name: Timo Age: 23 Location: Estonia/Finland Joined: 2008-10-04 Post Count: 509 Contribution: 914 Integrity: 7
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:45 am | |
| [quote="95 super3800"]theres a lot of muck getting built up on the inside of my coolant resevior.[/quotewhen you have the cooltaint out of the system then take the resevior(remove the litle tube what goes to the radiator and some nuts) when you have it off but a bit of SAND in it and somekind cleaning fluid like dich waching fluid (i'm not kiding...) and add some water in it till its 1/3 full. then but the cap on the resevior and hold one finger on the place where the tube connects the resevior and SHAKE IT!...the sand will start to rube and hit the dirt off the walls and the cleaning fluid dos not let it get stuck again...do it so long till its clean...fluch it whit water.... I cleaned mine this way _________________ 1996 SC |
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Name: Mark Location: The "other" side of the Golden Gate. Joined: 2009-04-10 Post Count: 423 Contribution: 848 Integrity: 25
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:00 pm | |
| Actually, that does sound like a good way to clean the inside of those tanks  _________________ 97 Riviera L67 - Desert Sandstone - Gutted AB Lid, Kool Blue AF, 180* SuperStat, Hogan 3" DP, ZZP 3.6" MPS; Sensa-Trac struts, Rockford-Fosgate 6x9's; Annoyance-Fixes: Express-Down delete, Full-time juice to Power Port, BRP-power to Glovebox lite, Brake-to-Shift delete, Console-compartment lite, Seat/Mirror Memory in any gear.
69 Wildcat Convertible, 430" QJet - Burgundy/Black - P/Win, P/Seat, P/Ant, Tilt, Cruise, Remote Trunk, Rallyes, AM/FM Mono!
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|  | | Jack the R Addict

Joined: 2007-01-17 Post Count: 3824 Contribution: 2556 Integrity: 22
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:05 pm | |
| What's wrong with running straight anti-freeze? A 50/50 mix doesn't sound like it would be good for below zero temps. |
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Name: Aaron Age: 32 Location: C-bus, Ohio Joined: 2007-01-14 Post Count: 9474 Contribution: 3477 Integrity: 39
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:28 pm | |
| I've heard straight antifreeze actually freezes sooner than a 50/50 mix! And without water I doubt it cools as well. Costs more than water, too. _________________  |
|  | | LARRY70GS Member
Name: Larry Age: 53 Location: Oakland Gardens, NY Joined: 2007-01-23 Post Count: 122 Contribution: 1337 Integrity: 13
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:40 pm | |
| | Jack the R wrote: | | What's wrong with running straight anti-freeze? A 50/50 mix doesn't sound like it would be good for below zero temps. |
Jack, Anti Freeze is good for corrosion protection, and to prevent freeze up. A/F actually does not transfers heat as well as water. The more A/F you use, the less heat transfer there is. That is why they tell you on the back of the container not to use more than 70% A/F to water. My neighbor actually had a chronic overheating problem that he could not figure out until he said to me "I don't understand it, I'm using 100% A/F". We drained half out, and added water. That did it. If you live in a warmer climate where there is no danger of freeze up, you are actually better off with 100% distilled water, and a bottle of Red Line water wetter or similar additive for corrosion protection. The water wetter lowers the surface tension of the water. It enhances heat transfer even more. That is what the Racers use. The engine runs cooler. |
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Joined: 2007-01-17 Post Count: 3824 Contribution: 2556 Integrity: 22
 | Subject: Re: Write-Up: Flushing Radiator Coolant Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:43 pm | |
| | AA wrote: | | I've heard straight antifreeze actually freezes sooner than a 50/50 mix! |
I don't think so. I'm pretty sure I've got straight anti-freeze in the Charger (not currently running, so no overheating worries), and it floats all the balls on the temperature tester (shows what temp your mix is good for).
When using a mix I've always found it difficult to get enough of the balls to float as is sometimes necessary. Drain a little, add antifreeze, drain a little, add antifreeze, drain a little, add antifreeze. . . |
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