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PostSubject: hood liner   Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:03 am

what does the liner do? it makes the engine compartment look nice! it might protect the paint job from radiant heat a little. but i think it just holds in engine heat longer. by removing it, might the engine dissipate heat better? what do you guys think?
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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:23 am

i was thinking about this as well, i think that it would get rid of heat better but what would we do when it snows,then the engine is so cold

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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:14 pm

I'd think the main purpose is protecting the hood paint from engine comp heat.

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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:45 pm

in the days of muscle cars,they did not come,at least most of em, with liners. my legend ran 4 years without one,i took it off, with no prob to paint. and it was a great place for all my performance stickers from parts i bought. i ran my legend in queens,ny, not as cold as utica,but pretty cold,she allways started right up! and took no longer to warm up ,than with a liner. i think im going to take it off,give it a good cleaning and store it away for awhile. and keep an eye on the paint. here in vegas anything one can do to improve cooling is a plus! it gets so dang hot sunny ! having a all white car helps too!
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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:12 pm

robotennis61 wrote:
in the days of muscle cars,they did not come,at least most of em, with liners.



I don't know about "most" of them, but the 60's and 70's Buicks all seem to have them and reproductions are available for most. Have new ones on my 68 GS350.

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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:51 pm

youre right! i dont think that it will affect the paint..so im taking it off im pretty sure it will help some....
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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:04 pm

I guess it doesn't make much sense to me. I think the "insulator" does just that, it keeps heat off the underside surface of the hood. So the heat that is rising from the engine moves off to the sides of the hood and escapes around the edges. Guess I don't see a drawback to having it in place. I really doubt that removing it will reduce temps. jmho of course.

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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:10 pm

ALTHOUGH, I doubt there would be any short term effects on the hood paint w/o the insulator. Long term "could" be a different story, so I'll leave mine on. It also likely serves a primary purpose of sound deadening, so that's a matter of personal preference.

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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:16 pm

Short answer: sound and heat.

Long answer. Differnt cars differ in the "need' for this. Chrysler had a problem with the 2.2 L turbo engines, well the turbos anyway, cooking off the paint. They responded by installing a flush louvered hood vent over teh turbo area and painting the hood with epoxy.

I suspect if there was a heat problem the thing to do would be add a vent or enlarge the grille. And if there was a heat problem the plastic engine cover would die first.

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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:29 pm

They are considered a fire blanket. If you notice what is holding it on are several plastic pushpins. If a fire starts under the hood, they melt causing the liner to drop and (if all goes well) suffocate the fire. Molded to the aluminum hood is a plastic reinforcing "pan" that shields the outside paint from the heat.

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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:42 pm

ewolfe0050 wrote:
They are considered a fire blanket. If you notice what is holding it on are several plastic pushpins. If a fire starts under the hood, they melt causing the liner to drop and (if all goes well) suffocate the fire. Molded to the aluminum hood is a plastic reinforcing "pan" that shields the outside paint from the heat.


I know I've seen a pic of a Riv with the hood melted off from an engine fire . . .

I don't see how that could possibly work, a fire could draw plenty of air up from the bottom.

I'm thinking of removing the rear plastic pins at least, I'm sure that's what's pressing against the STB and causing the hood to bow up.
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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:02 pm

call me crazy but after my sweet looking engine swap im taking my liner off and im going to put some mirrors in place. just for added show look

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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:04 pm

Nobody ever said it was a good design but that's what it's there for. I have run the Riv without it for a while yet and have not had a problem. If you want to keep the engine bay a little cooler, remove the top seal from the firewall to the hood.

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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Thu May 01, 2008 9:17 pm

ewolfe0050 wrote:
They are considered a fire blanket. If you notice what is holding it on are several plastic pushpins. If a fire starts under the hood, they melt causing the liner to drop and (if all goes well) suffocate the fire. Molded to the aluminum hood is a plastic reinforcing "pan" that shields the outside paint from the heat.

I'll have to disagree here Eric, the "pan" is also aluminum. Riveted to the hood, and then the liner is attached with plastic pins.
The corrosion I have on mine is a good indicator of that!

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PostSubject: Re: hood liner   Thu May 01, 2008 10:28 pm

I could swear mine was plastic but I guess I can't tell because of the paint over it. I guess I'll find out soon enough when I cut it for IC install (if needed)! I've been know to be wrong on several occasions though! lots and lots of occasions...

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