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1998rivman Trainee

Joined: 2007-05-20 Post Count: 24 Contribution: 919 Integrity: 0
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:29 pm | |
| I have been fighting with that P0341 for a year now, and have not located the problem yet. Mine is intermittent...it will do it 5 times in a day and then not do it for a month. I wouldn't be so quick to replace that magnet if the code is not set all the time. I had a service writer try to sell me a magnet replacement as well. When I asked, "Wouldn't the code be setting all of the time with the magnet missing?", I got a blank stare and then left. I have replaced the cam sensor, ICM, PCM, and front plug wires. I need to get to the rear wires when I change my plugs (hopefully this weekend). I'm also going to try to reroute or shield the ICM wires away from plug wires. Also, my traction control is never disabled when the 341 code sets on my Riv. After the plug wire change, the next diagnostic just might be a match. _________________ 1998 Riviera, Intense pcm, 180 t-stat, autolite 605s, Air Hog filter, Jacobs wires. Gatorback belts. 3.5" pulley wating for me to get to it.
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|  | | turtleman Addict

Name: Codith Age: 22 Location: Villa Park, IL Joined: 2007-02-09 Post Count: 1691 Contribution: 1664 Integrity: 19
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:22 pm | |
| to pull the front cover and replace this thing, do I need to pull the blower and/or lower intake too? I don't see why I would... _________________ 1997 turtle  |
|  | | 1998 Riv Addict

Name: Dave Age: 49 Location: The Land of the Free Joined: 2007-01-17 Post Count: 3531 Contribution: 2969 Integrity: 11
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:43 am | |
| I wouldn't think so. Dang, I need to buy those t/l sequencers... _________________ Dave G 98 Riviera Gutted, 3.8, 180, 104'S, front PEM, 3" DP & Cat, Caddy STB, GR2's. DHP 1.5   |
|  | | SpaceBar Addict

Name: Patrick Age: 23 Location: Quincy, MA Joined: 2007-04-08 Post Count: 1199 Contribution: 965 Integrity: 0
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:17 pm | |
| | 1998rivman wrote: | | I have been fighting with that P0341 for a year now, and have not located the problem yet. Mine is intermittent...it will do it 5 times in a day and then not do it for a month. I wouldn't be so quick to replace that magnet if the code is not set all the time. I had a service writer try to sell me a magnet replacement as well. When I asked, "Wouldn't the code be setting all of the time with the magnet missing?", I got a blank stare and then left. I have replaced the cam sensor, ICM, PCM, and front plug wires. I need to get to the rear wires when I change my plugs (hopefully this weekend). I'm also going to try to reroute or shield the ICM wires away from plug wires. Also, my traction control is never disabled when the 341 code sets on my Riv. After the plug wire change, the next diagnostic just might be a match. |
I've been getting that code since I had the cam done. Has happend about 3-4 times since then. The light goes off and then the car will stall a little while later. Will be fine the next day though... _________________
Performance - S1X Cam, 105# Springs, Intense 3.3 MPS, FWI, SLP headers, SLP HF cat, Flowmaster 40 Series, Res Delete, 180* T stat, Autolite 104s, Custom PCM Tune
Electronics - 2006 Kicker S12l7, KX1200.1 Amp, Pioneer 6x9s, Pioneer DEH-7700MP HU, Viper 791XV Alarm, Aeroforce scan guage
Apperance - SilverStar ULTRA, Custom Chrome Grill, Woodgrain Dash Kit & Steering wheel, 18" Daat-59 Rims, Toyo Proxes4 tires
PB 14.93 @ 95.39 2.32 60' ..before the cam
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|  | | turtleman Addict

Name: Codith Age: 22 Location: Villa Park, IL Joined: 2007-02-09 Post Count: 1691 Contribution: 1664 Integrity: 19
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:26 pm | |
| how many miles on the riv Pat? and do you have any other uncool behaviors besides the occasional stalling? _________________ 1997 turtle  |
|  | | 97rivman Member

Name: alex Age: 23 Location: Crete,IL Joined: 2007-06-09 Post Count: 472 Contribution: 901 Integrity: 0
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:11 am | |
| i had the code too but i just cleared it and it never came back. |
|  | | SpaceBar Addict

Name: Patrick Age: 23 Location: Quincy, MA Joined: 2007-04-08 Post Count: 1199 Contribution: 965 Integrity: 0
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:07 am | |
| | turtleman wrote: | | how many miles on the riv Pat? and do you have any other uncool behaviors besides the occasional stalling? |
86,000. Thats the only thing that happends. It doesn't happen much and its usually fine later in the day or the next day. _________________
Performance - S1X Cam, 105# Springs, Intense 3.3 MPS, FWI, SLP headers, SLP HF cat, Flowmaster 40 Series, Res Delete, 180* T stat, Autolite 104s, Custom PCM Tune
Electronics - 2006 Kicker S12l7, KX1200.1 Amp, Pioneer 6x9s, Pioneer DEH-7700MP HU, Viper 791XV Alarm, Aeroforce scan guage
Apperance - SilverStar ULTRA, Custom Chrome Grill, Woodgrain Dash Kit & Steering wheel, 18" Daat-59 Rims, Toyo Proxes4 tires
PB 14.93 @ 95.39 2.32 60' ..before the cam
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|  | | turtleman Addict

Name: Codith Age: 22 Location: Villa Park, IL Joined: 2007-02-09 Post Count: 1691 Contribution: 1664 Integrity: 19
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:28 pm | |
| Well I took the cam sensor off again today to look to see if the interrupter is there or not. It looks like it's there.  this pic is what I see with a mirror looking into the sensor hole (with the interrupter there)  thats a pic of the timing cover off that i found using google (just to get a reference of exactly what it all looks like)  thats the interrupter (courtesy of Intense) My thoughts at this point are that even though the problem of loosing the interrupter has been remedied in the series 2 engines, with all the miles, heat/cold, beating, etc, the interrupter has lost enough of its magnetism that it's providing too weak of a signal. any other thoughts before i spend about $200 replacing this stuff? _________________ 1997 turtle  |
|  | | turtleman Addict

Name: Codith Age: 22 Location: Villa Park, IL Joined: 2007-02-09 Post Count: 1691 Contribution: 1664 Integrity: 19
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:50 pm | |
| It occurred to me no sooner than on my way to work today that the symptoms of my problems can quite logically all point to a worn timing set. The noises i hear, the crappy transitional conditions, the trouble code(s), the miles, and the strangeness of the problem in general. All would very sensibly point to a chain tensioner thats bad or the chains just really stressed. Since I will be replacing the timing set with Intense's single set, and the new interrupter is on the way, I should be good once i replace it all. I'm going to try to get working on it this weekend.. possibly next weekend.. _________________ 1997 turtle  |
|  | | turtleman Addict

Name: Codith Age: 22 Location: Villa Park, IL Joined: 2007-02-09 Post Count: 1691 Contribution: 1664 Integrity: 19
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:53 pm | |
|  got all the hard parts and the gaskets and stuff. just need to do it. sure would be nice if i had already gotten my service manuals for this...  _________________ 1997 turtle  |
|  | | turtleman Addict

Name: Codith Age: 22 Location: Villa Park, IL Joined: 2007-02-09 Post Count: 1691 Contribution: 1664 Integrity: 19
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:39 pm | |
| ok who knows what exactly needs to come off to do this timing set replacement. I have the belts off and that mount all off as well as the p/s pump out of the way and i'm lookin at this thing and i still cant find the front cover really. i cant define where it is exactly. do i need to remove the alternator or anything else to get in there _________________ 1997 turtle  |
|  | | turtleman Addict

Name: Codith Age: 22 Location: Villa Park, IL Joined: 2007-02-09 Post Count: 1691 Contribution: 1664 Integrity: 19
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:54 pm | |
| oh yeah and how the F are you supposed to get the coolant out without spillin it all stupid? I see no petcock or anything anywhere! _________________ 1997 turtle  |
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Name: Aaron Age: 32 Location: C-bus, Ohio Joined: 2007-01-14 Post Count: 9474 Contribution: 3477 Integrity: 39
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Name: Codith Age: 22 Location: Villa Park, IL Joined: 2007-02-09 Post Count: 1691 Contribution: 1664 Integrity: 19
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:58 pm | |
| | AA wrote: | | So far, I've read the sprocket bolt is a one-time use (stretches when torqued), so will need to pick up a new one from GM. Here's the RM: |
You talkin about the one for the cam gear? Oh boy - i'm glad i did know that... I hope my chevy dealer has it or i'm pretty much screwed._________________ 1997 turtle  |
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Name: Aaron Age: 32 Location: C-bus, Ohio Joined: 2007-01-14 Post Count: 9474 Contribution: 3477 Integrity: 39
 | Subject: Re: P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor (cam sensor / timing chain) Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:22 am | |
| Yes, the cam sprocket bolt is part #24501366, sells for $5.55. NO ONE has it in my area. Only way is to drive to Akron (over 100 miles), so I'm putting this project off till next weekend, sorry. Ordered the bolt through GM parts, will be in Wed or so. Guess I'll tackle the SC coupler today instead... _________________  |
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