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deekster_caddy Addict
Name: Derek Age: 37 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-02-01 Post Count: 4446 Contribution: 3570 Integrity: 28
 | Subject: Re: o2 sensor issue at idle Wed May 13, 2009 11:21 am | |
| What brand O2 sensor did you use? edit: Unlikely but it could mean you have bad injectors causing a lean condition, or a MAF problem. Have you ever cleaned the MAF sensor? _________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
|  | | Rickw Addict
Name: Rick Location: Lancaster, MA Joined: 2008-09-13 Post Count: 2695 Contribution: 3725 Integrity: 31
 | Subject: Re: o2 sensor issue at idle Wed May 13, 2009 11:40 am | |
| DTC P0131 = HO2S Circuit Low Voltage Sensor #1 (The following is from the FSM) Check for the following conditions; - Heated oxygen sensor wiring. The sensor pigtail may be routed incorrectly and contacting the exhaust system. - Poor PCM to engine block grounds. refer to wiring diagram. - Fuel Pressure. The system will go lean if pressure is too low. The PCM can compensate for some decrease. However, if fuel pressure is too low a DTC P0131 may be set. Refer to fuel pressure test procedure. - Fuel Injector(s) Refer to Fuel Inj Coil Test - Vacuum leaks. Check for; disconnected or damaged vacuum hoses. incorrectly installed or malfunctioning crancase ventilation valve. Vacuum leaks at the throttle body, EGR valve, and intake manifold mounting surfaces. - Exhaust leaks - Throttle body inlet screen, check for damage. - MAF sensor. Disconnect MAF sensor. If the lean condition is corrected replace MAF sensor - Fuel contamination There is much more in the FSM regarding this code, too much to type here. There is a lengthy paragraph on measuring voltages with a 10 megohm digital voltmeter. Need to be able to read in the mV range. Suggest getting a copy of the FSM, will help you in the long run diagnose and troubleshoot not only this problem but any future problems. HTH _________________ 98 Riv, 102K Miles, EBC, LS1 Ft.Calipers, STB, Addco Rr Sway Bar, 180* stat., SSAC Headers, HF Cat, 1.9's, 105# springs, MPS 3.4, DHP tuned by the Deekster.
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Name: Kyle Sena Age: 21 Location: Stewart Manor, N.Y. Joined: 2009-04-08 Post Count: 39 Contribution: 304 Integrity: 0
 | Subject: Re: o2 sensor issue at idle Sun May 17, 2009 6:45 pm | |
| thanks alot for all the help, had my dad take a look at it and it turned out to be that the cause was my idle being to low . |
|  | | deekster_caddy Addict
Name: Derek Age: 37 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-02-01 Post Count: 4446 Contribution: 3570 Integrity: 28
 | Subject: Re: o2 sensor issue at idle Sun May 17, 2009 6:46 pm | |
| Idle too low... so was it the IAC? Idle should be controlled automatically, so unless you had a bad idle air control motor, that doesn't make sense to me. _________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
|  | | senabunns Trainee

Name: Kyle Sena Age: 21 Location: Stewart Manor, N.Y. Joined: 2009-04-08 Post Count: 39 Contribution: 304 Integrity: 0
 | Subject: Re: o2 sensor issue at idle Sun May 17, 2009 7:13 pm | |
| idk theres a little screw in the back of the throttle body that increased the tension on the the throttle cables, im not an expert or nething but i turned the screw a little my idle increased the roughness seemed to level out. |
|  | | 98riviera98 Addict

Name: Travis Age: 19 Location: Cottage Grove, MN Joined: 2007-02-08 Post Count: 3964 Contribution: 3039 Integrity: 11
 | Subject: Re: o2 sensor issue at idle Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:40 am | |
| So... i have this dumb code for my O2 sensor DTC P0131 = HO2S Circuit Low Voltage Sensor #1... I replaced my O2.. and it had the same issue of rough idle.. and when im going down a hill the rpms surge from 200rpms to about 1100 rpms.. so i got another new one.. SAME PROblem... and than i went ahead and i unplugged my o2 all together so that my car would run normal.. so right now i am running open loop. _________________ 1.9RR's, SSAC, LQ4 maf and N*, Gen V-ported, L32 LIM ported and polished, L26 block, L67 heads, tune, E85, 65# injectors Worthy quotes: | Rickw wrote: | | What a dipshit, grow up. |
| deekster_caddy wrote: | LOL @ guessing Rick's age. Since we've gotten together a couple of times I won't guess he'd probably hit me |
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Name: Travis Age: 19 Location: Cottage Grove, MN Joined: 2007-02-08 Post Count: 3964 Contribution: 3039 Integrity: 11
 | Subject: Re: o2 sensor issue at idle Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:48 am | |
| Its fixed... thanks for the input.....  _________________ 1.9RR's, SSAC, LQ4 maf and N*, Gen V-ported, L32 LIM ported and polished, L26 block, L67 heads, tune, E85, 65# injectors Worthy quotes: | Rickw wrote: | | What a dipshit, grow up. |
| deekster_caddy wrote: | LOL @ guessing Rick's age. Since we've gotten together a couple of times I won't guess he'd probably hit me |
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|  | | Rickw Addict
Name: Rick Location: Lancaster, MA Joined: 2008-09-13 Post Count: 2695 Contribution: 3725 Integrity: 31
 | Subject: Re: o2 sensor issue at idle Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:31 am | |
| | 98riviera98 wrote: | Its fixed... thanks for the input.....  |
Your Welcome from all of us. I think.!!!
It's very difficult to offer advise on problems when your running # 79 injectors and corn liquor.
So, what did you find to be the problem and the fix.?
EGR problem? _________________ 98 Riv, 102K Miles, EBC, LS1 Ft.Calipers, STB, Addco Rr Sway Bar, 180* stat., SSAC Headers, HF Cat, 1.9's, 105# springs, MPS 3.4, DHP tuned by the Deekster.
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|  | | deekster_caddy Addict
Name: Derek Age: 37 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-02-01 Post Count: 4446 Contribution: 3570 Integrity: 28
 | Subject: Re: o2 sensor issue at idle Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:33 am | |
| | 98riviera98 wrote: | Its fixed... thanks for the input.....  |
8 minutes after the original question? You seriously expected help inside 8 minutes at 3 in the morning?
So what was the problem? Burnt wire?_________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
|  | | Rickw Addict
Name: Rick Location: Lancaster, MA Joined: 2008-09-13 Post Count: 2695 Contribution: 3725 Integrity: 31
 | Subject: Re: o2 sensor issue at idle Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:59 am | |
| Deek, I think it was 24 hrs 8mins. But still, @ 02:40 not too many people looking at the board. _________________ 98 Riv, 102K Miles, EBC, LS1 Ft.Calipers, STB, Addco Rr Sway Bar, 180* stat., SSAC Headers, HF Cat, 1.9's, 105# springs, MPS 3.4, DHP tuned by the Deekster.
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|  | | deekster_caddy Addict
Name: Derek Age: 37 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-02-01 Post Count: 4446 Contribution: 3570 Integrity: 28
 | Subject: Re: o2 sensor issue at idle Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:20 pm | |
| Oh you are right. Whoops.  _________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
|  | | BMD Member

Name: BMD Location: Canada Joined: 2009-04-29 Post Count: 217 Contribution: 525 Integrity: 11
 | Subject: Re: o2 sensor issue at idle Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:14 pm | |
| | senabunns wrote: | | idk theres a little screw in the back of the throttle body that increased the tension on the the throttle cables, im not an expert or nething but i turned the screw a little my idle increased the roughness seemed to level out. |
Can anyone take a pic of the location of this screw, just for reference. Also out of curiosity, what should a Series II supercharged 3.8L idle at in neutral or in gear?_________________ Modern "Muscle"1996 Supercharged Riviera, Black Cherry Ext., Burgundy Int., over 200K |
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Name: BMD Location: Canada Joined: 2009-04-29 Post Count: 217 Contribution: 525 Integrity: 11
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