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Name: Derek Age: 37 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-02-01 Post Count: 4446 Contribution: 3570 Integrity: 28
 | Subject: Re: P0342 Cam Sensor Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:50 pm | |
| If it ran good at first, then started running like crap a few minutes later, I'd think more about a big exhaust or vacuum leak, or a bad O2 sensor. If it's the crank or cam sensor, it will run poorly right away. Is there an SES light? What code is up? _________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
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Name: Rick Location: Lancaster, MA Joined: 2008-09-13 Post Count: 2695 Contribution: 3725 Integrity: 31
 | Subject: Re: P0342 Cam Sensor Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:48 am | |
| | Ryan from Ohio wrote: | PO131 High voltage o2 sensor Also the 02 Sensor. When I did the engine I sprayed cleaned it. Think we will replace it anyhow. |
What did you use to clean it with. I've been told that cleaning an O2 sensor is generally a bad idea and can cause problems like you are mentioning. _________________ 98 Riv, 102K Miles, EBC, LS1 Ft.Calipers, STB, Addco Rr Sway Bar, 180* stat., SSAC Headers, HF Cat, 1.9's, 105# springs, MPS 3.4, DHP tuned by the Deekster.
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Name: Derek Age: 37 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-02-01 Post Count: 4446 Contribution: 3570 Integrity: 28
 | Subject: Re: P0342 Cam Sensor Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:49 am | |
| good catch, Rick, I missed that about cleaning the O2 sensor. It's not supposed to get cleaned. _________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
|  | | Ryan from Ohio Member
Name: Ryan Location: Toledo, Ohio Joined: 2008-11-16 Post Count: 231 Contribution: 598 Integrity: 4
 | Subject: Re: P0342 Cam Sensor Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:19 pm | |
| I think I used carb cleaner? It had 5 codes with only 1 at time of scan causing the light to be on. Im awaiting a call back when the guy is there/available to do another scan. And thats what I thought about the cam and crank sensors... I did replace the crank sensor per advice here and on other forums (read about it) so I didnt need to do that ever again. All I can say is if it is that magnet on the cam shaft sprocket missing Im going to be peeved! _________________ 1995 N/A, motor from an 04 Impala with replaced sensors!
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|  | | deekster_caddy Addict
Name: Derek Age: 37 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-02-01 Post Count: 4446 Contribution: 3570 Integrity: 28
 | Subject: Re: P0342 Cam Sensor Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:27 pm | |
| | Ryan from Ohio wrote: | | I think I used carb cleaner? |
On the O2 sensor? owwwww_________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
|  | | Ryan from Ohio Member
Name: Ryan Location: Toledo, Ohio Joined: 2008-11-16 Post Count: 231 Contribution: 598 Integrity: 4
 | Subject: Re: P0342 Cam Sensor Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:52 pm | |
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|  | | albertj Addict
Name: Location: Finger Lakes of New York State Joined: 2007-05-31 Post Count: 2052 Contribution: 2496 Integrity: 29
 | Subject: Re: P0342 Cam Sensor Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:22 pm | |
| | Ryan from Ohio wrote: | Well today I finally paid the $40 to get it scanned.
I have 4 codes total with only 1 code being current.
The current code is PO342 Cam sensor
The old codes PO131 High voltage o2 sensor PO325 Knock Sensor PO342 Cam Sensor P1626 Pass Key II Signal PO171 Fuel Trim lean
The Knock sensor I forgot to hook up after isntalling engine and starting it. The Fuel trim lean is probably the fuel leak at cracked plastic which I also fixed. The Pass Key is probably when I reprogrammed the new replacement Key FOB.
So that leave the current issue, cam sensor.
Also the 02 Sensor. When I did the engine I sprayed cleaned it. Think we will replace it anyhow.
For the cam sensor... Im going to make sure its plugged in first. Then spray clean out the plug, might have crap in it... After that I want to pull it make sure the crank sensor interrupter is present... Then after all that replace the sensor if need be...
need to find a way to test the sensor... |
dearly beloved we are gathered here today not to praise the O2 sensor, but to bury it and get a new one...
seriously, remember that your Riv has *two* O2 sensors.
Albertj _________________ 1998 with all fac. opts. (exc. CD changer and subwoofer); 209,000 miles. Mods: KYB front struts, extra noise barriers, fire extinguisher, Magnecor 8mm plug wires, 4-note horn, custom-made stainless exhaust.
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|  | | Ryan from Ohio Member
Name: Ryan Location: Toledo, Ohio Joined: 2008-11-16 Post Count: 231 Contribution: 598 Integrity: 4
 | Subject: Re: P0342 Cam Sensor Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:38 pm | |
| It does? Argh I thought it only had one... Now which one or both? argh.  I might just order the cheaper ones off Rock Auto then. Locally they are $53 each and we dont have that kind of money. _________________ 1995 N/A, motor from an 04 Impala with replaced sensors!
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Name: Codith Age: 22 Location: Villa Park, IL Joined: 2007-02-09 Post Count: 1691 Contribution: 1664 Integrity: 19
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Name: Aaron Age: 32 Location: C-bus, Ohio Joined: 2007-01-14 Post Count: 9474 Contribution: 3477 Integrity: 39
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Name: Ryan Location: Toledo, Ohio Joined: 2008-11-16 Post Count: 231 Contribution: 598 Integrity: 4
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Name: Rick Location: Lancaster, MA Joined: 2008-09-13 Post Count: 2695 Contribution: 3725 Integrity: 31
 | Subject: Re: P0342 Cam Sensor Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:17 pm | |
| If it's still drivable with the current O2 sensor, don't skimp. Your only asking for trouble with a universal one. Wait until you can get the correct one and a good brand name, preferably from your local auto parts store in case you have a failure. Bad one's out of the box are not uncommon. It happened to me just recently and had to wait until I returned the bad one and then they mailed me a new one. about a week delay all total. From now on I'll buy local sensors. If you can get one local it might save you some aggravation. I ran mine on the bad one for that week without any real bad side effects. Just had to look at the CEL and a hesitation and surge issue. _________________ 98 Riv, 102K Miles, EBC, LS1 Ft.Calipers, STB, Addco Rr Sway Bar, 180* stat., SSAC Headers, HF Cat, 1.9's, 105# springs, MPS 3.4, DHP tuned by the Deekster.
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|  | | albertj Addict
Name: Location: Finger Lakes of New York State Joined: 2007-05-31 Post Count: 2052 Contribution: 2496 Integrity: 29
 | Subject: Re: P0342 Cam Sensor Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:23 pm | |
| problem with universals is often failing at the splice - you have to splice them to the system and they don't give you connectors or anything for that. Worse, the voltage/current from the sensor is not very much, and the connection is in a harsh environment. And sometimes the sensors are bad in the box anyway. If you do use a universal, keep the connector off the old one, cut the wires about 3" to 5" from the sensor, and then crimp heatproof (nylon) spade or bullet connectors on the lines, then connect the old connector to the new sensor at the nylon connectors. The line will then be 3" or so longer than the OE rigging, so use a nylon tie to lash it to something so it does not flop around and cause the splice to get loose. Albertj _________________ 1998 with all fac. opts. (exc. CD changer and subwoofer); 209,000 miles. Mods: KYB front struts, extra noise barriers, fire extinguisher, Magnecor 8mm plug wires, 4-note horn, custom-made stainless exhaust.
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|  | | turtleman Addict

Name: Codith Age: 22 Location: Villa Park, IL Joined: 2007-02-09 Post Count: 1691 Contribution: 1664 Integrity: 19
 | Subject: Re: P0342 Cam Sensor Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:31 pm | |
| BWD = Borg Warner is not bad at all in the realm of aftermaket electronics. If you go to the local store, they will almost certainly have a universal option like that too. Most of the big chains sell Bosch sensors with a 1 year warranty so that will cover any out-of-the-box defects at least. I would also get the O2 sensor socket (some stores have them for rent) and a can a PB blaster to make it easier. It's ironic that I'm saying this, seeing as I work for an auto parts supply, but if you want to be really slick, buy it and carefully install it. If it doesn't fix the problem, clean it up real nice and return it saying you didn't need it. These are non-returnable if installed. So just make sure you don't install it.  _________________ 1997 turtle  |
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Name: Derek Age: 37 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-02-01 Post Count: 4446 Contribution: 3570 Integrity: 28
 | Subject: Re: P0342 Cam Sensor Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:15 pm | |
| I would only get a Delco or Denso O2 sensor. Don't get a Bosch, they are known for being problematic. _________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
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