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 |  Subject: Re: Intense Racing? PCM no good?  Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:45 pm | |
| | Fuzzy wrote: | | Deekster why are you so adamant that theres a problem with the car? Seems to me that vats is going bad and to just simply delete it out of the pcm data would be the fix. It's what we do with the F-bods. |
| Fuzzy wrote: |
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No seat of the pants improvement at all,and to top it off VATS still is engaged and still causing no starts  . It does do the 6,000 rpm shifts a WOT other than that I can't tell any differences in shift firmness,performance,etc. We emailed them to let them know that they forgot to delete the vats that night. They replied that they did it that it was a mechanical problem on my end like starter failure,etc. NOT... After explaining to them that the security light is on when it won't start and that when it goes out it cranks fine they promise to send another PCM. Well it's now July 3rd and no PCM. IMO Intense racing just SUCKS |
your use of "still" implies that this was a problem before you ordered your PCM. You don't know why the security light is on and you have no starts - maybe it's a bad ignition switch? Another part? It happens. Will a "vats delete" fix your problem? If it's vats, maybe, but just because your security light is on does that mean it's something a vats delete will fix? This is not an F body. Maybe things are different here. Tough to blame PCM programming for occasional no starts, the PCM either works or it doesn't, and if the guys from Intense say they did it, I would believe them.
You can bash vendors all you want, we all want to know about issues with any vendor. No excuses to Intense on the timing of things, unless they informed you otherwise. It is summer, many places close for a week of vacation etc. Customer service is customer service. People have had good and bad experiences from all the 3800 vendors that I know of. Lack of communication is the primary issue from all of them.
So get somebody else's PCM. I'm guessing you are still going to have the same problem. FYI transmission pressure and shift timing changes take a few driving days to become effective, the PCM needs to 'learn' how the shift speeds are happening. There really isn't any engine pre-tuning any vendor can do, so I wouldn't expect any big performance gains besides the transmission shifting.
I'm not trying to tell you if they are good or bad, but that you probably have another problem you should fix before blaming PCM programming. You said you had an occasional no-start problem before and after swapping PCMs. So why do you adamantly blame the PCM?
| Fuzzy wrote: | What other problem would it be other than VATS?
I've had plenty of days while waiting on the other PCM to arrive(june 18-july 6) for the changes to become apparent.
Again what problem am I having other than the security light is on car want start,wait til light goes out it starts. Is that not VATS?
Either way I'm done with them and will be sending their pcms back for a refund and looking for another company fo my v6 needs. |
That's a bit of an extreme response IMO. You should get an FSM and diagnose your problem. The troubleshooting pages are extremely thorough._________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
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