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Name: Aaron Age: 32 Location: C-bus, Ohio Joined: 2007-01-14 Post Count: 9474 Contribution: 3477 Integrity: 39
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:15 am | |
| Nope, must have one custom tuned for the Riv. You're looking at probably $200. DHP may offer a better deal, as they already have a performance version of the Riv's BIN for PowrTuner users. You'd need to ask them or a seller of DHP products. W Body store would be a good place to start. Mike's very good to work with. Fyi, I have the generic DHP BIN, and wasn't impressed. I wouldn't pay $100 for it. Only reason I use it is because the PowrTuner lets me change anything I want. _________________  |
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Name: Travis Age: 19 Location: Cottage Grove, MN Joined: 2007-02-08 Post Count: 3964 Contribution: 3039 Integrity: 11
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:23 am | |
| OK so what should do then save up $1000 and buy a 1)-$100 MPS kit 2)-$350 headers 3)-$400 rockers thats my current order of stuff i will be doing where should i put the autotap tuner ??? _________________ 1.9RR's, SSAC, LQ4 maf and N*, Gen V-ported, L32 LIM ported and polished, L26 block, L67 heads, tune, E85, 65# injectors Worthy quotes: | Rickw wrote: | | What a dipshit, grow up. |
| deekster_caddy wrote: | LOL @ guessing Rick's age. Since we've gotten together a couple of times I won't guess he'd probably hit me |
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Name: Aaron Age: 32 Location: C-bus, Ohio Joined: 2007-01-14 Post Count: 9474 Contribution: 3477 Integrity: 39
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:33 am | |
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Name: Travis Age: 19 Location: Cottage Grove, MN Joined: 2007-02-08 Post Count: 3964 Contribution: 3039 Integrity: 11
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:23 pm | |
| wow making cars "go fast" isnt easy or inexpensive!!!!!! _________________ 1.9RR's, SSAC, LQ4 maf and N*, Gen V-ported, L32 LIM ported and polished, L26 block, L67 heads, tune, E85, 65# injectors Worthy quotes: | Rickw wrote: | | What a dipshit, grow up. |
| deekster_caddy wrote: | LOL @ guessing Rick's age. Since we've gotten together a couple of times I won't guess he'd probably hit me |
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Name: Matthew Age: 23 Location: Florida Joined: 2007-01-18 Post Count: 2962 Contribution: 2522 Integrity: 26
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:52 pm | |
| yea, welcome to the club  _________________ 3.4, N*, 1.84RR, P&P blower and LIM, 3"DP, 4"WAI, plog, 6K HID, Eibach pro springs, KYB GR-2, Fbody 12" brakes,caddy STB & sway bar. Rear addco sway bar is next   |
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Name: Travis Age: 19 Location: Cottage Grove, MN Joined: 2007-02-08 Post Count: 3964 Contribution: 3039 Integrity: 11
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:04 am | |
| hahaha yup _________________ 1.9RR's, SSAC, LQ4 maf and N*, Gen V-ported, L32 LIM ported and polished, L26 block, L67 heads, tune, E85, 65# injectors Worthy quotes: | Rickw wrote: | | What a dipshit, grow up. |
| deekster_caddy wrote: | LOL @ guessing Rick's age. Since we've gotten together a couple of times I won't guess he'd probably hit me |
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Name: Derek Age: 37 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-02-01 Post Count: 4446 Contribution: 3570 Integrity: 28
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:44 pm | |
| No, a regal PCM won't work in the Riv. You can get a Riviera PCM from a few vendors, DHP and Intense being two I am familiar with. I started with the Intense PCM and really really liked their changes from stock. However, that still isn't tuning. They come with changes so your fans work right with a 180 tstat, and they do change a few things like shift points, shifting pressure (crisper shifts), etc. You can choose a stock timing table or something more agressive. If you have a lot of KR do NOT choose a more agressive timing table, KR will only get worse. I don't know what they do to the fuel tables, but the things I really noticed had more to do with the transmission. _________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
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Name: Matthew Age: 23 Location: Florida Joined: 2007-01-18 Post Count: 2962 Contribution: 2522 Integrity: 26
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:38 pm | |
| thats only for the 97+ rivs right? _________________ 3.4, N*, 1.84RR, P&P blower and LIM, 3"DP, 4"WAI, plog, 6K HID, Eibach pro springs, KYB GR-2, Fbody 12" brakes,caddy STB & sway bar. Rear addco sway bar is next   |
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Name: Aaron Age: 32 Location: C-bus, Ohio Joined: 2007-01-14 Post Count: 9474 Contribution: 3477 Integrity: 39
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:42 am | |
| One of the biggest complaints of INTENSE PCMs is the advanced timing causing KR. '96s would be different, but I don't see why they couldn't do it. Someone needs to ask DHP to make one (maybe they already have). _________________  |
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Name: Derek Age: 37 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-02-01 Post Count: 4446 Contribution: 3570 Integrity: 28
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:42 am | |
| When you order an Intense PCM you get to choose, Stock, Stage I II or III timing charts. I found that their 'stock' timing table actually had 2 degrees LESS than my stock PCM did at WOT, so I immediately had 3 degrees less KR. My stock PCM was calling for 16 degrees at WOT, theirs only called for 14. That issue about advanced timing in their PCMs was a total misunderstanding about the purpose of the PCM. Those initial PCMs were intended to be used as racing versions, with race gas. They have long since changed the way they sell their PCMs. Unfortunately that misunderstanding cost them a reputation in the PCM market, but I reassure you if you buy one today you get your choice of timing tables. _________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
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Name: Derek Age: 37 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-02-01 Post Count: 4446 Contribution: 3570 Integrity: 28
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:44 am | |
| I just checked the Intense site. Looks like it's only '97+. Sorry about that. I don't know who does them for '96. _________________ '98 Buick Riviera; Gen V 3.25 pulley, N*, VS Cam, 180 stat, Custom PCM (Powrtuner), headers & HF cat , 42.5 lb inj. Grant-built/PRJ/Thrasher trans 3.29 gears, 7/8 chain, zzp hardened IS  |
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Name: Enrique Patino Age: 24 Location: Queens, New York City Joined: 2007-01-24 Post Count: 739 Contribution: 1639 Integrity: 7
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:24 pm | |
| Since the 96 Riveria has the 4T60E. Thats why intense doesn't burn for our cars. Maybe we should contact them and see if we can get a group buy  . _________________  2001 Bonneville SSEI. Engine: ZZP 3.2 MPS, Intense S1X Cam, PDM Ported SC, LS1 TB, PRJ wires, SS autochrome headers, ZZP UD WP, DHP Powertuner, 3.29 Gears, DIY Shift kit, Handling: GXP STB, ES endlinks, DTS Front brakes, GXP Rear brakes. |
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Name: Aaron Age: 32 Location: C-bus, Ohio Joined: 2007-01-14 Post Count: 9474 Contribution: 3477 Integrity: 39
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Name: Matthew Age: 23 Location: Florida Joined: 2007-01-18 Post Count: 2962 Contribution: 2522 Integrity: 26
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:11 pm | |
| i am going to get a PT eventually (maybe summer), sorry. i need more than just a plug in PCM with tranny upgrades, unless it is really cheap. like $50 or a little more as long as it keeps KR down. _________________ 3.4, N*, 1.84RR, P&P blower and LIM, 3"DP, 4"WAI, plog, 6K HID, Eibach pro springs, KYB GR-2, Fbody 12" brakes,caddy STB & sway bar. Rear addco sway bar is next   |
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Name: Troy Age: 24 Location: Sylvania, OH (Toledo) Joined: 2007-01-26 Post Count: 648 Contribution: 1033 Integrity: 0
 | Subject: Re: Newbie Scan/Tune Questions Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:24 pm | |
| I am a 96 and there are several more on the board but I dont know how many of us are going to buy out of the handful on the board. _________________ 1996 Riviera s/c Series II 144,000 miles Gutted box + K&N Intense 180* Tstat , Coupler Autolite 104's Magnaflow Cat, Res Delete And one problem after another  |
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