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PostSubject: 95 and 96 front brake upgrade options?   Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:01 pm


As we all know the 95 and 96 models have the older front knuckle design and can't accept the F-body and other brake upgrades. So I was wondering if there were any other GM models that used this same knuckle and caliper mounting, but had better calipers and rotor options such as dual piston calipers.

I don't know the answer to this question myself, but doing some part cross referencing through Rock Auto and http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/catalog/stock_check.php I was able to see that the following models seem to share the same caliper. If any of these models had a higher performance brake options, OEM or aftermarket, then maybe there may be a bolt-on option for 95 and 96 Rivieras?


Part# 18FR1137

ACDELCO Professional Durastop
Front Brake Caliper


BUICK(16)1994-1999

LESABRE(6)1994-1999

1999 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1998 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

PARK AVENUE(3)1994-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

PARK AVENUE ULTRA(3)1994-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1 (ULTRA)

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1 (ULTRA)

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1 (ULTRA)

RIVIERA(4)1995-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

CADILLAC(18)1994-1996

DEVILLE(3)1994-1996

1996 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y

1995 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

1994 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

DEVILLE CONCOURS(3)1994-1996

1996 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9

1995 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y

1994 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y

ELDORADO(6)1994-1996

1996 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y

1996 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (TOURING)

1995 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (TOURING)

1995 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y

1994 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y

1994 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (TOURING)

SEVILLE SLS(3)1994-1996

1996 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y (SLS)

1995 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y (SLS)

1994 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y (SLS)

SEVILLE STS(3)1994-1996

1996 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (STS)

1995 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (STS)

1994 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (STS)

CHEVROLET(14)1994-1997

CAMARO(5)1994-1997

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin S

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1994 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin S

CAMARO Z28(4)1994-1997

1997 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P (Z28)

1996 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P (Z28)

1995 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P (Z28)

1994 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P (Z28)

LUMINA APV(5)1994-1996

1996 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin E

1995 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1994 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

OLDSMOBILE(18)1994-1999

AURORA(2)1995-1996

1996 V8-244ci 4.0L F/I Vin C

1995 V8-244ci 4.0L F/I Vin C

DELTA 88(1)1999-1999

1999 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

EIGHTY-EIGHT(3)1996-1998

1998 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

EIGHTY-EIGHT LSS(1)1995-1995

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

EIGHTY-EIGHT ROYALE(2)1994-1995

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

NINETY-EIGHT REGENCY(5)1994-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

SILHOUETTE (OLDS)(4)1994-1996

1996 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin E

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1994 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

PONTIAC(26)1994-1999

BONNEVILLE(5)1997-1999

1999 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1999 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1998 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

BONNEVILLE SE(3)1994-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

BONNEVILLE SSE(2)1995-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

BONNEVILLE SSEi(2)1994-1998

1998 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

FIREBIRD(8)1994-1997

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1997 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin S

1995 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1994 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin S

1994 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P

FIREBIRD FORMULA(1)1996-1996

1996 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P

TRANS SPORT(5)1994-1996

1996 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin E

1995 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1994 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L
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PostSubject: Re: 95 and 96 front brake upgrade options?   Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:10 pm


And for the front rotor:



Part#: 18A559A
ACDELCO Advantage
Front Brake Rotor


BUICK(24)1991-1997

LESABRE(6)1992-1997

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1993 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

PARK AVENUE(6)1991-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1993 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1991 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

PARK AVENUE ULTRA(6)1991-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1 (ULTRA)

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1 (ULTRA)

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1 (ULTRA)

1993 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1 (ULTRA)

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1 (ULTRA)

1991 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

RIVIERA(6)1992-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1993 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

CADILLAC(34)1990-1996

ALLANTE(1)1993-1993

1993 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9

DEVILLE(7)1990-1996

1996 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y

1995 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

1994 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

1993 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

1992 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

1991 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

1990 V8-273ci 4.5L F/I Vin 3

DEVILLE CONCOURS(3)1994-1996

1996 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9

1995 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y

1994 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y

ELDORADO(8)1992-1996

1996 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (TOURING)

1996 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y

1995 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y

1995 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (TOURING)

1994 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (TOURING)

1994 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y

1993 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

1992 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

ELDORADO SPORT COUPE(1)1993-1993

1993 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y (SPORT)

ELDORADO TOURING COUPE(1)1993-1993

1993 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (TOURING)

FLEETWOOD(3)1990-1992

1992 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

1991 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

1990 V8-273ci 4.5L F/I Vin 3

SEVILLE(2)1992-1993

1993 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

1992 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

SEVILLE SLS(3)1994-1996

1996 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y (SLS)

1995 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y (SLS)

1994 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin Y (SLS)

SEVILLE STS(4)1993-1996

1996 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (STS)

1995 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (STS)

1994 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (STS)

1993 V8-281ci 4.6L F/I Vin 9 (STS)

SIXTY SPECIAL(1)1993-1993

1993 V8-300ci 4.9L F/I Vin B

CHEVROLET(20)1992-1997

CAMARO(5)1994-1997

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin S

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1994 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin S

CAMARO RS(1)1993-1993

1993 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin S

CAMARO Z28(5)1993-1997

1997 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P (Z28)

1996 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P (Z28)

1995 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P (Z28)

1994 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P (Z28)

1993 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P (Z28)

LUMINA APV(9)1992-1996

1996 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin E

1995 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1994 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1993 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1993 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1992 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

OLDSMOBILE(33)1991-1997

AURORA(2)1995-1996

1996 V8-244ci 4.0L F/I Vin C

1995 V8-244ci 4.0L F/I Vin C

EIGHTY-EIGHT(2)1996-1997

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

EIGHTY-EIGHT LSS(3)1995-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

EIGHTY-EIGHT ROYALE(4)1992-1995

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1993 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

LSS(2)1997-1997

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

NINETY-EIGHT(1)1991-1991

1991 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

NINETY-EIGHT REGENCY(8)1992-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1993 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

NINETY-EIGHT REGENCY TS(1)1993-1993

1993 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

REGENCY(1)1997-1997

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

SILHOUETTE (OLDS)(8)1992-1996

1996 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin E

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1994 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1993 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1993 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1992 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

TORONADO(1)1992-1992

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

PONTIAC(32)1992-1997

BONNEVILLE(2)1997-1997

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

BONNEVILLE SE(5)1992-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1993 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

BONNEVILLE SSE(3)1993-1996

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1993 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

BONNEVILLE SSEi(2)1992-1994

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I S/C Vin 1

FIREBIRD(9)1993-1997

1997 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1997 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P

1996 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1995 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin S

1995 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin K

1994 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin S

1994 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P

1993 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin S

FIREBIRD FORMULA(2)1993-1996

1996 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P

1993 V8-350ci 5.7L F/I Vin P

TRANS SPORT(9)1992-1996

1996 V6-207ci 3.4L F/I Vin E

1995 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1995 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1994 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1994 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1993 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1993 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L

1992 V6-189ci 3.1L F/I Vin D

1992 V6-231ci 3.8L F/I Vin L
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PostSubject: Re: 95 and 96 front brake upgrade options?   Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:11 pm


Special note are the Camaros and Firebirds. I would think there were some options for them, OEM and aftermarket.
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PostSubject: Re: 95 and 96 front brake upgrade options?   Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:21 pm

What is all that!? The 95 takes the F-body brake mod super easy! Allz ya gotta do is cut off the front vertical control arm mounting bracket and weld on a horizontal one.simple. piece-o-kake!
btw,if you want better brakes there is nothing else available for the 95 except the F-body mod.Get out the welder!
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PostSubject: Re: 95 and 96 front brake upgrade options?   Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:30 pm

"All that" might be an easier way to add bigger brakes to a 95-96 Riv, without needing to hack & weld on your cradle. Sometimes the super easy way for one isn't everyone else's cup o' tea!

Al, I think the rotor listed above should bolt right up to our hub. The only thing left to do is fabricate a bracket for mounting the caliper. That might take some work, but it would be a great way to upgrade brakes without needing to swap out control arms.

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PostSubject: Re: 95 and 96 front brake upgrade options?   Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:41 pm

Flipping the brackets over isn't hacking.it's fabricating. I've been down this road before.As far as I can tell,there is nothing else. Relocating the bracket takes no longer than a couple hours per side.
Fabricating a caliper bracket is way harder than flipping the control arm bracket.No doubt.
@ Al,get a buddy who fabricates & let him help you with the F-body mod.There is a write up somewhere that outlines the project.super easy.
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PostSubject: Re: 95 and 96 front brake upgrade options?   Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:57 pm


Thanks Robo, I have read the write-ups for the F-body brake install and your modification to install the later control arms. But I don't want to also then change the struts, springs, etc. to the 97+ at this point. I'd like to leave the front end generally stock and see if there is an OEM or aftermarket that might be a bolt on affair, or close.

I think it might be an interesting exercise for other 95 and 96 owners to see what may be out there that doesn't require surgery.

I haven't done any other research at this point other than the x-ref info I pulled above. But I was hoping that someone else looking through the list might recognize a particular model, such as the mid 90s Camaro or Firebird, that had a kit or OEM upgrade.

It might be fruitless, but thought it could be worth checking into for all the 95 and 96 owners that have so few options, esp the 95 owners like us smile

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