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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptySun Jan 19, 2014 8:52 pm

Its the locking mechanism. If I hit a bump or hit the steering wheel it will slide too the off position. While driving or whenever it feels like it. I want to know if I change the locking cylinder is it going to change its resistance to my new keys?
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptySun Jan 19, 2014 9:49 pm

No, the resistance is through a wire set that goes through the lock cylinder, but not related to the lock cylinder. I believe it's actually the PCM that's measuring the resistance and looking for a certain value. Just wires at the lock cylinder point.

I'm not sure a new lock cylinder will help though. It doesn't sound like the right part to be replacing if that's your problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyMon Jan 20, 2014 10:04 pm

It's the ignition switch it wont stay on the on position I have to guide it to stay on, then thats not even good enough for it to keep it from going to the off position. I just dont want to waste no keys I just bought
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 21, 2014 9:48 am

Sounds like the cylinder or the Ignition Switch itself is bad.
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 21, 2014 9:53 am

Yeah I just wanted to change that and hopefully not lose two brand new keys due to the chip
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 21, 2014 10:28 am

Well, it sounds to me like the Ignition Switch is the culprit. I assume that there isn't any tension on the cylinder? It turns but doesn't stay in place? The Switch itself is spring loaded, and has all the "stops" in it for the different key positions. The cylinder just turns....

Hopefully it's just the Switch. You can replace the Switch without changing anything else.

If it happens to be the cylinder, yes, you will lose both brand new keys. A new cylinder comes pre-coded with a "dummy" key. The dealer would have to read the chip from your keys, get 2 blanks with that resistance, and cut them to match the new "dummy" key.
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 21, 2014 1:23 pm

I haven't cut the keys yet they brand new I had them on stand by for that reason. So if I have to swap the cylinder out cause it was acting super funky last night had my whole car jerking untill it actually cut off. So I can buy the cylinder without changing the resistance?
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 21, 2014 1:29 pm

Johnny5 wrote:
I haven't cut the keys yet they brand new I had them on stand by for that reason. So if I have to swap the cylinder out cause it was acting super funky last night had my whole car jerking untill it actually cut off. So I can buy the cylinder without changing the resistance?



Yes. The uncut keys you have will have to be cut to the new cylinder.

I don't think it's the cylinder though. The cylinder inside the column, without the Ignition Switch hooked up to it, turns freely forward and backward. It's the Ignition Switch (on the other side of the column) that stops it in RUN/Accessory, and springs it back to RUN after you start the car. Take the column apart and take off the Ignition Switch from it. You'll see what I'm talking about.
I don't want you to just throw a cylinder in it without actually looking at it.

With the column apart, Ignition Switch disconnected from the cylinder, you don't even need to cylinder to start the car. Put the key in the cylinder, and turn the Ignition Switch with a screwdriver....The car will start, and stay running unless the Switch is fuct up.
What I'm saying is, if the Ignition Switch turns completely free without stopping at the different positions, or doesn't spring back from the START position, it's wasted.
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyWed Jan 22, 2014 11:15 am

Man the switch is what I was praying it wasn't cause I have the viper alarm and its components are tied in ti them
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyFri Feb 07, 2014 1:15 am

Deekster_Caddy im glad you have come around to read up on me where I am so far
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyFri Feb 07, 2014 11:34 am

Okay from what I can figure out you fixed the cracked EGR tube but still have P0135 active, is that correct?
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyFri Feb 07, 2014 4:54 pm

Yeah thats coming from being catless and bad o2 in the rear, but I need to get exhaust work done there but everyone is in the business to get rich I see I have all the parts I want to go in on a previous post. But its to cold for me out here
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyFri Feb 07, 2014 7:45 pm

Yeah I saw that post. Agree that $400 is not unreasonable to install a set of headers. It's a 4-6 hour job.

It's also the kind of job most shops will not touch, because it makes your emissions illegal in most states. So $400 is suddenly not so bad a price.
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyFri Feb 07, 2014 9:07 pm

Well I got a guy going to do it for me for 325 he used to build cars for carter performance racing.... he is going to raise my whole exhaust up he don't want to do cause its a bitch ass job to him V6 is not his specialty
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PostSubject: Re: Riviera from hell   Riviera from hell - Page 8 EmptyFri Feb 07, 2014 9:18 pm

Because im going to buy my intercooler system next and suspension Rob is working with me to get that done up..
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