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Consider getting the electronic replacement flasher - the OE thermal flasher is OK with the stock load but not differently loaded. Tridon EL12 or Standard EFL1. I have yet to see a decent auto parts store that didn't have them in stock. Consider getting the "truck" version that will handle up to 12 bulbs if the store shows it. [/quote]

I looked at the Tridon EL12. It doesn't seem adjustable, which is what the vendor I bought my sequencer from has suggested. I'd like to get a variable that will plug into the stock receptacle. I think that's possible. Can you tell me the blade configuration for the stock unit? I can't find that info or an illustration, without actually going under the dash and dismantling, which I'd like to do as few times as possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals   Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals - Page 10 EmptySun Sep 11, 2011 6:27 pm

denim wrote:

Consider getting the electronic replacement flasher - the OE thermal flasher is OK with the stock load but not differently loaded. Tridon EL12 or Standard EFL1. I have yet to see a decent auto parts store that didn't have them in stock. Consider getting the "truck" version that will handle up to 12 bulbs if the store shows it.

I looked at the Tridon EL12. It doesn't seem adjustable, which is what the vendor I bought my sequencer from has suggested. I'd like to get a variable that will plug into the stock receptacle. I think that's possible. Can you tell me the blade configuration for the stock unit? I can't find that info or an illustration, without actually going under the dash and dismantling, which I'd like to do as few times as possible.
Thanks!


going under the dash is no big deal, it's obvious how to remove the driverside insulator panel (black panel under dash) once you look at it. A few screws on edge nearest driver and a plastic clip on the firewall.

It is a 2-blade flasher. There is no illustration probably because it is a very, very common "heavy duty" flasher used almost since there were blinking turn signals in cars.

Neither flasher I suggested is adjustable. If the sequencer mfg recommended some sort of adjustable flasher then you might/should just get that one.

Albertj


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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals   Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals - Page 10 EmptySun Sep 11, 2011 7:09 pm

Thanks! As a mere vassel here, I appreciate your knowledge.
I think Grote has a plug-in that will work. Par t#GRO 44891 (NAPA)
OR I could just do this Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals - Page 10 Hands tongue
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The supplied lights don't affect your cruise control?? Some of the LED mods cancel your cruise.
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The Roadmaster wrote:
The supplied lights don't affect your cruise control?? Some of the LED mods cancel your cruise.
what and when would cause this?

i just installed my sequential tail lights and i was told by the vendor that replacing my flashers with electronic ones would be a good idea. so the riv has 2 flashers...? would these be fine and a perfect fit? signal and hazards;

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/_/N-5yc1s?checkfit=true&itemIdentifier=6413

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/_/N-9cjef;jsessionid=DB66EBB3DB5F354D50B3BF4772FA56B5.diyprod1-b2c2?itemIdentifier=69839

when i have the hazards on it sometimes doesn't sequence right. outer bulbs don't flash
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LaFlare wrote:
The Roadmaster wrote:
The supplied lights don't affect your cruise control?? Some of the LED mods cancel your cruise.
what and when would cause this?

i just installed my sequential tail lights and i was told by the vendor that replacing my flashers with electronic ones would be a good idea. so the riv has 2 flashers...? would these be fine and a perfect fit? signal and hazards;

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/_/N-5yc1s?checkfit=true&itemIdentifier=6413

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/_/N-9cjef;jsessionid=DB66EBB3DB5F354D50B3BF4772FA56B5.diyprod1-b2c2?itemIdentifier=69839

when i have the hazards on it sometimes doesn't sequence right. outer bulbs don't flash

Those seem to be the EL12 cited earlier in the thread. They are not that much $$, just try one.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals   Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals - Page 10 EmptyFri Mar 09, 2012 9:33 am

I just bought one, been meaning to do this since before 2009...time flies!

Turtleman will be my guru with his great pics & such!

pics soon!

Oh the webelectronics universal one smile
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals   Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals - Page 10 EmptyFri Mar 09, 2012 10:47 am

LaFlare wrote:
The Roadmaster wrote:
The supplied lights don't affect your cruise control?? Some of the LED mods cancel your cruise.


what and when would cause this?


Senses a bulb burned out condition with LED's. Some people have had luck implementing a resister in the circuit, i.e., raising the impedance to that of conventional bulbs satisfying the cruise control that the tail lights are working.
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I've used LED tail lamps before without issue. Anyone actually have a problem with a Riviera, or is this just a "some cars do it" kind of rumor?

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals   Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals - Page 10 EmptyThu Mar 15, 2012 12:57 pm

Guys I ordered the set from WebElectric but they said they had a better set...so I actually ordered that.

Here's what the guy told me in the email correspondence

Quote :

The STS-1 kit will work if you replace the center sockets as described on
that web site. However, for a few dollars more, you should get the STS-3MP
kit. It will convert the middle socket to dual level lighting without
replacing the socket. In other words, you don't need to drill the tail
light housing to install a larger, 3-wire socket in the middle position.

Let me know if you want to change to the STS-3MP. If I don't hear from you
by 9:00 EST, I will ship the STS-1 kit.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals   Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals - Page 10 EmptyThu Mar 15, 2012 6:25 pm

Well that's certainly interesting...
I wonder what they do - overdrive the 194 somehow to make it brighten up to 3X57 level?

If that's the case, I can't help but think the taillight assy is going to be coming off a lot more often to replace bulbs... confused
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I just did mine last night! IMO changing the socket is the way to go. its not
as difficult as it sounds and it really doesn't change any thing from the lens
view other than all three lights are on when you break instead if the two outer lights.
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gmann3001 wrote:
I just did mine last night! IMO changing the socket is the way to go. its not
as difficult as it sounds and it really doesn't change any thing from the lens
view other than all three lights are on when you break instead if the two outer lights.

I agree with you... IF, however, the boys at WebElectrics have come up with something that lasts, then they've got a whole lot more applications than they think they do. A bunch of Buicks in the last 40 years have had our 3-tail-bulb/2-outer-brake-light-bulb systems; like my '69 Wildcat/Electra/LeSabre...
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals   Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals - Page 10 EmptyFri Mar 16, 2012 7:58 pm

OKAY!!!!

Installed it today... had to read the instructions carefully...think it through...but once I did the driver's side...the passeger side was a 10 minute job.

Not going to go over the "HOW TO" since it's pretty simple, and is already posted here

The yellow and purple wires are driver's side, while the dark green and brown wires (with a white stripe) are passenger side wires....

I did what Turtleman did in driling a hole in the rear light casing so both units will be fixed in their position(s). The instructions recommend that both units are mounted in such a way that they face down, and with Turtleman's mod, that's what happens.

All in all a very simple mod. The setup I bought comes with zip ties and wire ties and very good instructions. You'll still want to electrical tape it all and zip tie the loose wires to make sure it's all OEM in apperance...

I love it!

Click these links below to see a short video (If I did it right!)


Driver's side
Passenger Side
Hazards
Lock and Unlock


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OH!!!!

The middle lights...the bulb(s) they supply are BIGGER than the bulb which is originally there...so it can handle the voltage ups and downs this unit sends
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Nice Job. looks good
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Thanks, it's a very easy mod, and if it holds up, I highly recommend it for all Riv's
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Hears how mine look
Write-Up: Sequential Turn Signals - Page 10 Th_VIDEO0012
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Yes, that's the way mine are.

I HIGHLY recommend this mod to all Riv owners. I had mine for roughly $90 and it's an easy thing to do and makes your Riv...your CAR unique!!

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OH!!!! BTW, when I posted these videos...I didn't realize I'd crimped a wire around the driver's side lower light housing...so I had to undo it all, move that wire...and reinstall...

watch those wires gang!
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FANTASTIC !!! bow
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did my video's post alright???
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I would really like to see it in a brighter light setting, but yes it shows up. Great job you did there, Nate.
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I had my neighbor sit in the car and hit the brakes...they do the hazard light sequence once, then stay on..it's really cool.

I also had him turn the lights on and they still work with the sequencing...just brighter.

This mod should be standard fare for all Riv owners on this site...easy and unique
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I can see the turn-signals & hazards pretty well in the vids, Nate.
Is it a "video thing", or do the center bulbs no longer run with the tail lights?

Also, did you make a note of what number the new bulbs are?
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