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PostSubject: SPEEDO   Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:20 am

I don't know if this has been covered becuase I haven't found anything about it. OK, MY speedometer does not read anything above 55MPH:sad: mad .. Has ANYONE had this similar problem and, any possible solutions would be GREATLY appreciated!
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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:57 am

The instrument cluster used to be mechanical gadgets and analog gauges. Now (at least for speedo and odo) it is a device calculating speeds and mileage based on VSS input coming through the PCM.

You MIGHT have a problem with the wiring, or the VSS that is outside the transmission. How to tell: are your shift points wack? If so, most likely VSS possibly with wiring issues. If not, likely is wiring or gauge. RockAuto, they are closing out Delphi sensors for less than $10 each.

Time for you to find/buy a factory (NOT third-party like Chilton or Haynes or even Alldata) service manual... and do some old-school troubleshooting. There's no inherent frequent flaw here.

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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:45 pm

Maybe need to increase your supercharger boost! lmao lmao lmao (Sorry, I needed a laugh)

First thing I'd try is to have the car scanned through the OBD plug on a drive (assuming you have a 96 or later car. There's no description in your sig, and you didn't mention the year). A scan tool can read MPH and that will tell if the gauge is broken, or if the PCM actually thinks the speed is low, indicating a bad speed sensor. If the scan tool reads higher speeds, the problem is in the gauge cluster. Hope this helps, and good luck.

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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:44 am

albertj wrote:
The instrument cluster used to be mechanical gadgets and analog gauges.  Now (at least for speedo and odo) it is a device calculating speeds and mileage based on VSS input coming through the PCM.

You MIGHT have a problem with the wiring, or the VSS that is outside the transmission.  How to tell: are your shift points wack? If so, most likely VSS possibly with wiring issues.   If not, likely is wiring or gauge.   RockAuto, they are closing out Delphi sensors for less than $10 each.  

Time for you to find/buy a factory (NOT third-party like Chilton or Haynes or even Alldata) service manual...  and do some old-school troubleshooting.  There's no inherent frequent flaw here.


Thanks a lot for the thorough input! Now that you mention it my shift points have been out of wack for awhile now, I was just thinking it was the TC was showing its age..Would that be the GIANT plug hanging out of the side? I do need too find me a manual as I plan on doing the majority of my work like I've been doing(just been reading on this site using the very informative info)because things are needing too be changed.
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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:48 am

AA wrote:
Maybe need to increase your supercharger boost! lmao lmao lmao (Sorry, I needed a laugh)

First thing I'd try is to have the car scanned through the OBD plug on a drive (assuming you have a 96 or later car. There's no description in your sig, and you didn't mention the year). A scan tool can read MPH and that will tell if the gauge is broken, or if the PCM actually thinks the speed is low, indicating a bad speed sensor. If the scan tool reads higher speeds, the problem is in the gauge cluster. Hope this helps, and good luck.

LOL. I would LOVE to increase BOOST I was want too take care of these other issues before I really mod. Would a shop usually be willing to do that? I don't have my own scan tool. I'll have to add that too the list...
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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:00 pm

Depends on the shop. Something so simple like that, they might do it for free. It would only take 5 mins to plug in and read the speed while driving.

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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:21 pm

AA wrote:
Depends on the shop. Something so simple like that, they might do it for free. It would only take 5 mins to plug in and read the speed while driving.


Come to think of it you could get a scan dongle off eBay and download scanner software. If you don't have a scanner to read codes etc., might be time to get one.

You can get one for wifi, bluetoothor wired.   They either come with software or instruction s on how to get it for free/cheap.  The $$ software is a bit more capable but not as good as a genuine Tech II.
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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:03 am

AA wrote:
Depends on the shop. Something so simple like that, they might do it for free. It would only take 5 mins to plug in and read the speed while driving.

I will have to look more into the shops here. I don't have any shops as, I don't really have trust in most mechanics. nervous
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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:00 am

9ty7rivi wrote:

AA wrote:
Depends on the shop. Something so simple like that, they might do it for free. It would only take 5 mins to plug in and read the speed while driving.


I will have to look more into the shops here. I don't have any shops as, I don't really have trust in most mechanics. nervous

you might wanna try these guys on the south side of San Antonio: https://www.spitfireautoelectric.com/
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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:31 pm

albertj wrote:


9ty7rivi wrote:



AA wrote:
Depends on the shop. Something so simple like that, they might do it for free. It would only take 5 mins to plug in and read the speed while driving.




I will have to look more into the shops here. I don't have any shops as, I don't really have trust in most mechanics. nervous



you might wanna try these guys on the south side of San Antonio:  https://www.spitfireautoelectric.com/


You SIR, ROCKS! yay rock I'll definitely give those guys a try!
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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:33 pm

albertj wrote:

AA wrote:
Depends on the shop. Something so simple like that, they might do it for free. It would only take 5 mins to plug in and read the speed while driving.



Come to think of it you could get a scan dongle off eBay and download scanner software. If you don't have a scanner to read codes etc., might be time to get one.

You can get one for wifi, bluetoothor wired.   They either come with software or instruction s on how to get it for free/cheap.  The $$ software is a bit more capable but not as good as a genuine Tech II.

I will have to look further into getting a scanner. I have a hard time trusting those guess on EBAY. What are the chances of getting screwed over or getting something that looks nothing like the pic? puzzled
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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:03 pm

Best bang-for-buck scanner, imo, is Aeroforce Interceptor: http://www.aeroforcetech.com/products_order_gm.html

Keep in mind, a "code reader" is not the same as a scan tool. A code reader only displays and clears trouble codes - pick for $15-20 at Walmart (or visit AutoZone for free). For $50-up you can get something that shows real time parameters, and for $200-up, you can data log and playback parameters. For $350 you can log and download data with HPTuners scanner. For $500 you can have a complete scanner/tuner package to actually modify settings in the car's PCM.

More scanner information can be found here: http://rivperformance.editboard.com/t2100-faq-good-scanner-tuner-software-to-use

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3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180Ί t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:37 pm

9ty7rivi wrote:

albertj wrote:


AA wrote:
Depends on the shop. Something so simple like that, they might do it for free. It would only take 5 mins to plug in and read the speed while driving.




Come to think of it you could get a scan dongle off eBay and download scanner software. If you don't have a scanner to read codes etc., might be time to get one.

You can get one for wifi, bluetoothor wired.   They either come with software or instruction s on how to get it for free/cheap.  The $$ software is a bit more capable but not as good as a genuine Tech II.


I will have to look further into getting a scanner. I have a hard time trusting those guess on EBAY. What are the chances of getting screwed over or getting something that looks nothing like the pic? puzzled

About zero. I posted ones I or my friends had bought over the years to do basic code pulling and drive-time logging. OBDII scanners are not expensive. The money comes in scanners that correctly interpret the OBDII codes that manufacturers have specifically used for one thing or another instead of their generic purpose. Not an issue for this. As for getting screwed that 's why I did not post a cloned Tech II.
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PostSubject: Re: SPEEDO   Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:37 pm

AA wrote:
Best bang-for-buck scanner, imo, is Aeroforce Interceptor: http://www.aeroforcetech.com/products_order_gm.html

Keep in mind, a "code reader" is not the same as a scan tool. A code reader only displays and clears trouble codes - pick for $15-20 at Walmart (or visit AutoZone for free). For $50-up you can get something that shows real time parameters, and for $200-up, you can data log and playback parameters. For $350 you can log and download data with HPTuners scanner. For $500 you can have a complete scanner/tuner package to actually modify settings in the car's PCM.

More scanner information can be found here: http://rivperformance.editboard.com/t2100-faq-good-scanner-tuner-software-to-use

+1 this.
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