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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:12 pm

Hi,
on my '95 riv I have a threaded air fitting on the air line. on the replacement monroes ma822 they have the connection everyone talks about: no thread, just a groove for a spring clip...
any ideas?
should I get that line kit from monroe and replace at the compressor?
are there any conversion fittings available?
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:00 pm

johnd89 wrote:
Hi,
on my '95 riv I have a threaded air fitting on the air line. on the replacement monroes ma822 they have the connection everyone talks about: no thread, just a groove for a spring clip...
any ideas?
should I get that line kit from monroe and replace at the compressor?
are there any conversion fittings available?
Thanks!

A threaded air fitting? This is interesting as I believe stock the 95 should be like the other years, with the slip nub and clip. Maybe someone else has modified your suspension before you got the car? the ma822 should be a direct fit for a stock 95.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:22 pm

John, see page two of this thread for a link to an inexpensive line kit that can be used to fix your problem.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:47 pm

Just a note on the size of the replacement Delcos.

They were much larger is size compared to the stock ones diameter wise. This is because the upper portion has a sleeve/shield to protect the bag portion for elements.

The stock 95 Rivi connection was a plug with a clip that holds it on. The aftermarket kit I got/comes with the replacement Delcos is a thread on kit.
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PostSubject: New rear shocks?? air line   Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:22 pm

I put in new rear shocks...the air lines were a pain to pull out of the old shocks...but they came out..

How do I put them in tight into the new shocks. I put them in the opening, but should have I pressed them in someway? The black plastic cap & clips went on no problem, but the lines just seemed to fit in rather easy...should they be pushed in, should the rubber seal be pressed in somehow?

car seems to ride fine,I'm just curious if I missed a step...


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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:59 pm

oops, there are small rubber o-rings in front of the lines I pulled out of the old shocks...Need to put them in the new ones!

That 's probably why the pump seemed to be running more...
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:31 pm

thx for the reply!
indeed, my car had them cahnged with the newer ac delcos w/threaded fittings.
Does the kit from monroe connects the shocks to the pump, or simply to a tire-like valve to be filled up manually?
My other option would be to cut the threaded fittings and solder them to the monroes. I kinda like more the threaded fitting because it looks more leak proof.
thanks for the advice!

btw, I just changed discs/pads all around, a broken rear spring (one coil broke off...), new kyb struts/ strut bearings and mounts. WOW at 150k miles I have a new car again!!
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:35 pm

huh?
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:28 am

johnd89 wrote:
indeed, my car had them cahnged with the newer ac delcos w/threaded fittings.
Does the kit from monroe connects the shocks to the pump, or simply to a tire-like valve to be filled up manually?
My other option would be to cut the threaded fittings and solder them to the monroes. I kinda like more the threaded fitting because it looks more leak proof.
thanks for the advice!
First, I've not seen nor was I aware the new Delco shocks had threaded fittings. The ones I put on my car were just like stock with the push on fittings, o-rings and clips.
Second, From what I know the Monroes have the same as stock type fittings, push on with o-rings and clips and hook to the stock pump. No need to hook up a separate fitting to fill from another location.
I wouldn't try cutting and soldering the fittings on the shocks, if that's what you are referring to. To easy for that type of modification to break.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:47 pm

ok, I'll try then to find an original air line with clips
thanks!
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PostSubject: PART NUMBER FOR REAR AIR SHOCKS   Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:15 pm

i am looking for buy a set of rear air shocksto put away. The dealer had a set in stock but they were not the same as the factory ones on the car ?? He said they were OE but wer all steel and gloss black. I am looking for the flat black ones with the air bladder in the middle. I know they are AC DELCO but do not have the part number any one??? thanks Anthony
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:18 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:25 am

Also, The P/N for a pair / set of GM rear shocks is P/N 22064810.
Comes two to a box and is less expensive than buying each individual shock.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:15 am

You can also buy them individually. See parts number link.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:08 pm

I bought mine off E Bay for like $120 or so shipped... PAIR.
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PostSubject: Rear Air shocks   Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:15 am

I had some aftermarket rear air shocks.... They were the ones off ebay.. meloroe or whatever they are called..

I came across these..
http://www.strutmasters.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=-CAD-R5NS-BR&&Click=4623

Opinions needed ASAP.. My rear air shocks toook a dump on me. frown
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:51 am

suggest you go to RockAuto.Com - they have Monroes, Delcos and Sachs. Not sure there is a difference between Monroe and Sachs. Howver, a pair of them's not that much.

you also may want to check with (Phone) local CarQuest or Advance/O'Reilly/Krager - their pricing may not differ that much from RockAuto when you add in shipping/delay *if* the store has the shocks now (which given as many cars as they are used on, they just might).

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:14 am

98riviera98 wrote:
I came across these..
http://www.strutmasters.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=-CAD-R5NS-BR&&Click=4623

Opinions needed ASAP.. My rear air shocks took a dump on me. frown
I haven't heard of anyone installing the Strut Master shocks yet.
You do know that eliminates the air shock completely.
So will have to disable the Air Compressor or remove all related level ride component including the Relay under the back seat.

Why don't you try them and report back what you find on handling characteristics and such.
Be the new kid on the block.
I have read that Strut Masters makes a good product., just don't have any experience with them.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:57 am

Can the strutmasters be adjusted? like the air ride ones can if you remove the compressor and send them to an air valve?

They look cool, you should try them and see how it handles...

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:08 pm

I have used strutmasters recently on a customers lincoln continental, these coil over struts replace the factory air shocks. these are very good quality kits and are pretty pricey too!
but all in all they worked out very well.
I believe they have factory replacement air shocks available also.
I havent seen or installed any on gm cars yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:11 pm

i am also very interested in these cause they make them for the park aves too, let me know what you find twisted
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:40 pm

Rickw wrote:
98riviera98 wrote:
I came across these..
http://www.strutmasters.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=-CAD-R5NS-BR&&Click=4623

Opinions needed ASAP.. My rear air shocks took a dump on me. frown
I haven't heard of anyone installing the Strut Master shocks yet.
You do know that eliminates the air shock completely.
So will have to disable the Air Compressor or remove all related level ride component including the Relay under the back seat.

Why don't you try them and report back what you find on handling characteristics and such.
Be the new kid on the block.
I have read that Strut Masters makes a good product., just don't have any experience with them.

I'd love too BUT i don't quite have 300 sitting here for some shocks that might not work
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:41 pm

98riviera98 wrote:
I had some aftermarket rear air shocks.... They were the ones off ebay.. meloroe or whatever they are called..

I came across these..
http://www.strutmasters.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=-CAD-R5NS-BR&&Click=4623

Opinions needed ASAP.. My rear air shocks toook a dump on me. frown

I took a look at Strutmasters.

I *strongly* suggest you look at RockAuto.Com - putting on a pair of replacement air shocks will cost you about 1/3 of what the Strutmasters setup will, assuming the shockes are the only thing wrong (which is very most likely the case). $70 or $80 and an hour of your time for the air shocks, versus $300+ and a few hours of your time for the Strutmasters.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:45 pm

98riviera98 wrote:
I'd love too BUT i don't quite have 300 sitting here for some shocks that might not work
By design i think they will work great and are adjustable for the spring rate you prefer for handling.
Also, They have a 365 day, no questions asked, return policy.
I know when my air shocks go bad, I'll put these on instead.
The only problem being that i put OEM new shocks on a couple of years ago. it could be a while before I need to change shocks.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Rear Self-leveling Air Shocks   Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:29 pm

Rickw wrote:
98riviera98 wrote:
I'd love too BUT i don't quite have 300 sitting here for some shocks that might not work
By design i think they will work great and are adjustable for the spring rate you prefer for handling.
Also, They have a 365 day, no questions asked, return policy.
I know when my air shocks go bad, I'll put these on instead.
The only problem being that i put OEM new shocks on a couple of years ago. it could be a while before I need to change shocks.

Ill think about it for a bit.. i might be getting a Toyota Yaris or the equivalent for the winter/paper route i have.. which would allow me to buy these in the spring cool
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