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PostSubject: Aftermarket Speakers???   Sat May 05, 2007 3:06 pm

These are the ones I have now. For front speakers.

Pioneer TS-G1341R
5-1/4" 2-way car speakers

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MDgteQpnuuH/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?i=130TSG1341

I want to upgrade to these

PIONEER TS-C130R
5.25" COMPONENT speakers

http://cgi.ebay.com/NU-PIONEER-5-25-COMPONENT-CAR-AUDIO-STEREO-SPEAKER-SET_W0QQitemZ180111825579QQihZ008QQcategoryZ32818QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Think its worth it . Comments appreciate it.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Sat May 05, 2007 3:14 pm

good choice. I haven't used any of pioneers component systems but they will definitely sound great since you have a 2 way now. I'd say go for it!

I'm going to be putting my supplementary component alpine tweeters in as soon as i get the dash mount that supports my EQ/amp but since i've used it in my last car already i can tell you, it will sound great!
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Thu May 24, 2007 11:23 pm

Good choice. Component speakers always sound better than coaxials.

I've had and have all sorts of component speakers. Polk Audio in my Elco, I've had MB Quarts in a Roadmaster I have since sold, Rockford Fosgates, Alpines, and Focal.

The best sounding thus far are the Focals. But I am sure you will be pleased and you will notice the sound quality difference. Let us know what you think.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 25, 2007 5:57 pm

I've used both components and coaxials, and components usually sound better to most listeners, but not always. A component set will sound louder in most all cases. The separate drivers and external x-over can handle more power, and the fact the midwoofer isn't sharing the same pole as the tweet means it can have more throw. Not always the case, as some coaxials out there have external x-overs and a good design that lets them take power and play loud. JL Audio XRs and VRs are good examples of quality coaxials.

If you're on a budget, coaxials have their advantages, though. Easier to install for one, and having the tweet and midwoofer close together means a better point source and more equal path lengths vs. having mids in the door and tweets on the dash. Rivs have the tweets in the door, but they're not in the best location.

What I did is installed a component set using a home-made bridge that suspends the tweet over the mid. It also angles it in a better direction. Here's how it looks... sounds fantastic, disconnected factory tweet:


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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 25, 2007 6:05 pm

Does you stock grill for it fit over still?
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 25, 2007 6:46 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 25, 2007 6:51 pm

I guess that answers the question smile
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Sat May 26, 2007 10:39 am

I love componet speakers i put the mmc from polk in there with the carbonfiber cones i angled everything just alittle sounds great. But i plan on custom mounting them to angle even more but its a cleaner sound if you have them set up right.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Sat May 26, 2007 11:58 am

who had the 3" coaxial speakers in the tweeter location? I cannot find 3" speakers anywhere! 3.5" are too large
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Sat May 26, 2007 12:15 pm

They were 3.5" made to fit. There are no 3" car speakers.

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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Sat May 26, 2007 2:17 pm

AA wrote:
They were 3.5" made to fit. There are no 3" car speakers.

i have a pair of basically new infinity 3.5" coaxial that I'd really like to get in there to replace the tweeter but they definitely do not fit. If I remember right, I don't think I could even get the magnet in
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Sat May 26, 2007 5:51 pm

You'll need to cut the opening to fit them, but shouldn't be a problem depth-wise. I'm not a fan of 3.5"s because midbass is weak, and it's easy to damage them if you exceed their limit. 5.25"s are best, and they fit in the stock location. 6.5's would be better, but you need to do custom work to fit them.

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PostSubject: front door speakers???   Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:25 am

does anyone know what is the size of the small speakers on our doors..... i know we have 2... what size is the smaller speaker... pls... trying to buy some for my car
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:04 pm

would these fit????

http://cgi.ebay.com/PAIR-3-TITANIUM-HORN-TWEETERS-300-WATT-FREE-KIT-3230_W0QQitemZ270146562444QQihZ017QQcategoryZ14943QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:22 pm

^^^Those might fit, but they're going to sound loud and harsh. Our system uses a 5.25" mid and a 1" tweet. Best off getting a 5.25" component set or coaxial system designed for drop-in replacement.

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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:23 pm

I'm thinking i could fit a 6x 9 in the area behind the speaker grill.
Can anyone say weather it fits or doesn't?
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:05 pm

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I'm thinking i could fit a 6x 9 in the area behind the speaker grill.
Can anyone say weather it fits or doesn't?

behind the grills in the doors? You could do it, but it would be alot of cutting and they probably aren't deep enough to sound good.

Just replace with drop ins. Components would be best but I got shitty $40 jenson replacements and a cheap amp and it screams. Could only imgaine decent equipment.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:01 pm

I bought some pioneer ones at walmart for $30 and they sound good. My stock ones were popping and it was driving me nuts.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:09 pm

The sizes above are correct. Get the best component set you can afford. Almost anything will be better than the original equipment speakers. The problem with trying to fit 6.5" or 6x9s is that they are so deep they interfere with the window going down.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:06 pm

6X9 i think would fit the question is how deep are the 6's and two i dont think the stock grill will work reason beeing most of the tabs would have to be cut off and im dam sure it would rattle. Only Reason i say that is cause i tried to put 6.5 compontes in there and even 6.5 would of needed to cut all those tabs i opted to mount them on the grill. At this point it has been 2 weeks they sound great but will be better when i fiberglass the whole gril to make a speaker box out of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:45 am

Hmm... are the rears that our car uses 6X9's?

Also, can you use the stock headunit and wires for upgraded speakers? I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm sure I could open the panels up and install new speakers.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:08 am

Buapo wrote:
Hmm... are the rears that our car uses 6X9's?

Also, can you use the stock headunit and wires for upgraded speakers? I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm sure I could open the panels up and install new speakers.

The rears are 6x9s. You will be fine with the stock headunit for aftermarket speakers. I'm pretty sure you will be fine with stock wiring too don't see why there would be a problem.

I loved the upgrade to the sound system when I got my pioneer head unit though. Stock sounded good but it sounds much better now.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:01 am

SpaceBar wrote:
Buapo wrote:
Hmm... are the rears that our car uses 6X9's?

Also, can you use the stock headunit and wires for upgraded speakers? I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm sure I could open the panels up and install new speakers.


I loved the upgrade to the sound system when I got my pioneer head unit though. Stock sounded good but it sounds much better now.

agreed, a new head unit will greatly improve the sound quality. But you could also install and amp to those aftermarket speakers, but keep the head unit. The amp would make the speakers sound alot better, especially if the amp has a nice crossover setting. You need amp(s) with decent features if you wont ever be upgrading your head unit since most aftermarket headunits have alot of features, including built in crossovers.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:33 pm

I would want to upgrade on the cheap. I went overboard with the Regal and spent like $850 on a sound system. Never again. Granted, I love it - but I'm just looking for higher quality without having to purchase an amp.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:47 pm

Buapo wrote:
I would want to upgrade on the cheap. I went overboard with the Regal and spent like $850 on a sound system. Never again. Granted, I love it - but I'm just looking for higher quality without having to purchase an amp.

either you bite the bullet and throwdown a chunk for a decent head unit, or go with an amp. I got a cheap amp, but not the stock head unit. The amps crossover features are really limited (unlike very expensive amps). I say go with the amp if you decide to do anything. Even the best headunit doesnt have enough power to adequately power most speakers. 70X4 is the best you will find in a headunit.. and that max. So maybe 35watts RMS....but even thats doubtful. A cheap amp is 50watts RMS or more usually.
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