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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon May 05, 2008 1:50 am

Yep. Infinity 90623 and 5022i. i think i actually recommended them to him.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon May 05, 2008 2:38 am

Wow, sounds like a great deal!

Checking this out...

Are these them?
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=52300&i=1089623I&search=Infinity+VENDORID108&searchdisplay=Infinity&tp=91
If so, they're $149.99

and these are $99.99
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?o=m&g=400&i=1085022I&tp=105

At Amazon they are much cheaper!

The 5 1/4 speakers look good, but what about these for the rear?
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=400&i=1086937I&searchdisplay=Infinity&tp=105

It's a little bit of an upgrade, and once again, Amazon prices are very nice.


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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon May 05, 2008 6:02 am

Oh yeah, the Kappas should be very nice. Be careful about power drain if you're on the stock head unit and no amp, because basically the car'll shut the radio off at a couple clicks away from full volume if it's on for 10 seconds or so, to prevent a short circuit or a blown fuse. But yeah, like I said, Amazon prices are a lot lower! Glad I could help.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon May 05, 2008 7:24 am

Great tip on the infinities. I'll be checking this out soon!

Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon May 05, 2008 11:45 am

Buapo wrote:
Wow, sounds like a great deal!

Checking this out...

Are these them?
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=52300&i=1089623I&search=Infinity+VENDORID108&searchdisplay=Infinity&tp=91
If so, they're $149.99

and these are $99.99
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?o=m&g=400&i=1085022I&tp=105

At Amazon they are much cheaper!

The 5 1/4 speakers look good, but what about these for the rear?
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=400&i=1086937I&searchdisplay=Infinity&tp=105

It's a little bit of an upgrade, and once again, Amazon prices are very nice.

Hmmm...interesting. I know i didn't pay that much. I think they were both on sale or something , because i definitely have those and only paid 120 for them. Sometimes you luck out i guess. but yeah . i'd go with kappas if you can get them for a reasonable price
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon May 05, 2008 1:49 pm

I don't plan on having my speakers at full volume... even with the stock setup, the volume doesn't make it much further past halfway.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon May 05, 2008 2:28 pm

you can check out this site, though they have some off brand speakers they do have name brands for cheap prices, pioneer, kicker, MTX

http://www.cardiscountstereos.com/Speakers.asp
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon May 05, 2008 9:16 pm

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-AwmCMPGP8vR/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=400&i=1086937I&searchdisplay=Infinity&tp=105

Everyone take a look at this page again, it's the Infinity Kappa 6X9s.

Notice the two little "rectangle-boxy" looking things? What the hell are those? Should I be concerned?
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon May 05, 2008 9:25 pm

Those are external crossovers. just mount, zip tie or tape them near the speakers at your convenience.
Nothing to worry about.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Tue May 06, 2008 3:20 pm

Okay guys, I ordered the speakers!

Here are my 3-Way 6X9s - Infinity Kappa 693.7i
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Kappa-693-7i-3-way-speakers/dp/B0009IDLWC/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1210101293&sr=8-2

And here are my 2-Way 5-1/4s - Infinity Reference 5022i
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Reference-5022i-2-way-speakers/dp/B000MPDSBQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1210101422&sr=8-4

It ended up being $160 after shipping. I still have to buy the clips, though. Hell of a deal, got each pair for like, 1/2 off.

Anyway, I would have gotten the Kappa 5-1/4s, but crutchfield says that they are not a drop-in replacement for the front speakers, so I have to use the Reference. I'm sure they'll be just fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Tue May 06, 2008 3:38 pm

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Anyway, I would have gotten the Kappa 5-1/4s, but crutchfield says that they are not a drop-in replacement for the front speakers, so I have to use the Reference. I'm sure they'll be just fine.

Sounds like BS to me. You can make most any standard 5 1/4 fit. Maybe you need to enlarge the mounting hole, or drill a few extra screw holes. Or, if it's a mounting depth problem, use a spacer ring to support the speaker.

From my experience, you'll get the best sound quality from the Kappas vs. Reference Series. The Reference will play louder with less power, though, because they are more efficient. Also, Kappas used to lack in the midbass dept, but they could be improved from 10 years ago.

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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Tue May 06, 2008 3:49 pm

Aaron, I bet you're right...

But I wanted a nice, simple drop-in replacement. I should have these installed perfectly in under an hour without any serious hangups. And I ordered the harnesses, so I can't wait!
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 09, 2008 5:30 pm

I got the clips in from Crutchfield.

If all goes well, I'll get all the speakers in tomorrow, and have them ready for my trip down to Delaware on Monday.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 23, 2008 1:47 am

Well, it's all said and done.

I got all the speakers at the same time, and installed them in under two hours. Turns out I didn't "need" the clips... but I did use one set on front due to the "clip-on" nature of the adapters. I didn't use the stock adapter part, but rather the other leads that stick right onto the speakers themselves.

The installation went great. Nice and smooth, and I made everything look really nice.

They sound really good as well, but the bass does not hit very hard - I'm on the stock head unit with no amp, so of course that's going to happen. I'm thinking about some sort of amplifier, but I've never installed one and I know jack shit about them. In the meantime, I'll enjoy my crystal clear speakers - easily worth the money even if I don't get the amp. Thanks for everyone's advice!

The 6x9 kappas have crossovers (as mentioned before) and I think because of these crossovers, they are better than the Reference series. Just something to think about, considering there's not much of a price difference if you buy them on Amazon.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 23, 2008 4:43 pm

Congrats on the clean and easy install! Upgrades are always fun. Whenever I make a change in my system, I always go through all my old "standby" cds just to hear how much better everything sounds.

In general, the Kappa series are better than the Reference series.
The crossover is a moot point if you use an amplifier with an adjustable crossover, but since you went with the head unit power, the crossover is a nice addition to reduce the risk of blowing the drivers from too much bass. You won't get a lot of low end from the rear deck series.. maybe enough to vibrate the rear view mirror just a bit, but you'll need to invest in a 10" and a good 100'ish watt amp to get a nice little punch in the system. (maybe 2 subs since these cars are so acoustically absorbant).

Enjoy the new speaks!!
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 23, 2008 4:56 pm

Congrats. Did I read it wrong? I thought you were installing Kappas in rear, Reference Series up front?

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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 23, 2008 5:04 pm

I might do a sub, but I know nothing about them.

I think I'll just leave everything as-is, because they sound great - so I'll live without a sub to save some money right now. I'd like to finish my performance mods (which is only a powerlog!)

A sub (or two) is easily in the future.

And Aaron - yes, it's Reference up front and Kappas in the back. Great quality, excellent "bang for your buck" upgrade for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 23, 2008 5:09 pm

If you find the need for some bass, check this out:

Infinty Basslink

Trust me on this... for money, the BEST and EASIEST to install powered sub on the market. Taps right into your 6x9s, hooks up directly to the battery. Built-in amp, tuned enclosure, tiny size, and it will rattle your fillings! The bass isn't boomy, either, it's very quick, quality sound from what I've heard.

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KYB GR2 struts MaxAir shocks Addco sway bars UMI bushings GM STB Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s F-body calipers
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 23, 2008 5:17 pm

That looks amazing! If I come across the money, perhaps this is what I'll do!
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 23, 2008 5:29 pm

I like my custom 8" sub system. It accomplishes about what the Infinty Basslink does. Back when I built it (2003), the Basslink was new and very expensive. It also didn't have all of the positive reviews then, so I didn't know how good it was. If I had it to do over again, I would probably do one or maybe two Basslinks in the trunk.

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KYB GR2 struts MaxAir shocks Addco sway bars UMI bushings GM STB Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s F-body calipers
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Fri May 23, 2008 10:59 pm

Treble up all the way, bass up 3 down from all the way, and adjust volume accordingly. My friend showed me how to 'bump,' and it sounds fine with my sub-less setup. If the bass gets too strong, the car's computer will 'mute' it a bit so as not to blow the speakers.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Sat May 24, 2008 2:06 pm

IBx1 wrote:
If the bass gets too strong, the car's computer will 'mute' it a bit so as not to blow the speakers.


I think you're overestimating your car's abilities just a bit.
The best devices you can use to keep from blowing those speakers are your ears. If you hear distortion, turn it down.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Sat May 24, 2008 2:19 pm

agree

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3.4" pulley AL104 plugs 180 t-stat FWI w/K&N 1.9:1 rockers OR pushrods LS6 valve springs SLP headers ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts MaxAir shocks Addco sway bars UMI bushings GM STB Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus SS lines Brembo slotted discs DHP tuned Aeroforce Hidden Hitch

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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Sat May 24, 2008 4:13 pm

No, the bass definitely tops out at a certain level where the audio computer is set to make it so. If I turn the volume down from above that limit, the bass level stays the same until I reach the top and then it goes down. Not a decibel of distortion, by the way.
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PostSubject: Re: Aftermarket Speakers???   Mon May 26, 2008 7:51 pm

I'd venture to say that you're simply reaching the excursion limits of your speaker.
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