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PostSubject: Transmission Smell   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 24, 2007 11:47 am

Driving hard through the hills of KY yesterday, I noticed the smell of transmission fluid when I stopped. The car shifts and drives fine, and trans temps are pretty low 175-190F while driving. Fluid level was fine last I checked, and no leaks that I can see. Fluid changed 2 months ago. Anyone have an idea?

Other than TCC still not locking up, the only symptom I have is when the car is cold, the transmission seems to slip until after 10-20 secs, then the car moves fine, just like it used to.

I drove 400 miles today, and will try another 300 tomorrow. Wish me luck! neutral

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 24, 2007 2:42 pm

What, you came to KY and didn't drop by for a visit?

I'll wish you luck but there's nothing like being prepared when the worst rolls around.
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 24, 2007 3:08 pm

Yeah, I'm near Lexington, out in the sticks. All the roads look the same out here, but it sure is fun to tear through them at 80 mph!

I have the the money in the bank for a new trans, but I was hoping to wait until after Christmas to spend it.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 25, 2007 12:45 am

Have you pulled the vacuum line off of the transmission modulator to see if you might be burning some fluid?
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 26, 2007 12:44 am

dennycrane wrote:
Have you pulled the vacuum line off of the transmission modulator to see if you might be burning some fluid?

i think the 97+ models didn't use modulators. its not vacuum controlled.
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 26, 2007 9:51 am

dreww wrote:
dennycrane wrote:
Have you pulled the vacuum line off of the transmission modulator to see if you might be burning some fluid?

i think the 97+ models didn't use modulators. its not vacuum controlled.


Correct.

95-96 rivieras got the 4T60E
97+ rivierias got the 4T65E
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 28, 2007 6:36 pm

Well, I got though Nov and Dec all right. Managed to add another 10k miles after the first sign of trouble. Current mileage: 151k+.

While driving to KY on Christmas Eve, I was crossing the Ohio River at about 90 mph, when I noticed RPM was a little higher than normal.. maybe 2800. I let off and saw 2500 at 65 mph, which is too high. soon it was 3kRPM at 45 mph... and then I was stopped. The car wouldn't move at all. Stupid me. Why was I driving 90 mph when I knew the trans wasn't 100%?

Popped the hood to find the fluid was cooked. Smelled pretty bad. After letting her cool down, I tried starting up, and to my surprise the car ran fine. Shifted through the gears and I was on my way. I decided to cruise at 65 mph to my girlfriend's parents' house 10 miles south of Cincinnati. No more problems on the way, thankfully.

Next day it was off to my parents for Christmas. I drove two hours into the KY sticks. As long as I kept my speed down, there was no problem. A couple times I was going up a hill and could feel it slipping, but I made it. My first priority was making it home for Christmas. Any other time I would've called AAA and had the car towed back home.

Wed, Dec 26th I drove home with no problems. It was cooler out now, so I think this helped a lot. Still, I knew the fluid was cooked, so stopped and bought a filter and fluid. Had to go to work that day. Hoping the car would make it to the weekend.

Thu, Dec 27th I had to work again. No time to change the fluid today, and that bugged me. Was driving home after work, and noticed a kind of scraping/grinding noise. I wasn't sure it was the trans at first, but then I felt it slip and buck a little. Then it made more noise, so shut her down on the side of the road, then started her up a minute later. The noise was less after I tried driving again. I eased her up to 60 mph and cruised to my GF's house. Sent Ed Morad an email.

Today I thought I'd change the fluid and see what kind of damage I'd done. I tried to drive to my place, and barely made it. No noises any more, but it wouldn't stay in gear for more than a couple minutes, then would slip. But if I stopped the car and restarted, I could drive a couple more miles and repeat the process. I started thinking the fluid change wasn't going to help. There was definitely something wrong, so called Aamco for a quote. They have a $100 off sale going, which is something, and estimated between $1500-$2000 for a rebuild, depending on what they saw.

Talked to Ed Morad. He isn't installing transmissions right now, only supplying them. He had a couple units with 90-120k miles. One unit with 80k would be in next week. Aamco was looking to be the better option for now.

Took the car in to Aamco. They drove it and then put it up. Dropped the pan. Fluid was near black. I was embarrassed as I explained what I'd done, driving the car 500 miles on burnt fluid. On the magnet were metal parts they described as "parts of gear teeth". So for now the diagnosis is looking grim. I don't expect it will be toward the low side of the estimate.

Good news is they should be done Monday or Tues. I can't afford to not have a car, so I'm willing to pay for it I guess. This is the first real setback with this car. I guess I can accept this would happen sooner or later. Maybe if it happened at any other time, I could've changed that fluid. Really bothers me that I didn't get to it. Probably could've gotten even more miles before the rebuild.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 28, 2007 8:23 pm

hmmm. I think I'll be getting that dex6 fluid, filter, shift kit very soon nervous
A 1500-2000 dollar trans is out of the question for me right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 28, 2007 8:40 pm

Aaron, for that much money, how come you chose not to get a zzp, intense, or wbs trans?
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 28, 2007 9:43 pm

I don't know if I would call failure at 151K+ of lead foot driving a set back. It's amazing it lasted that long.
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 28, 2007 11:55 pm

298hp , 370 ft-lbs + 151k miles is the automotive equivalent of doing cocaine every day and living to 90.. ya just can't complain.
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 28, 2007 11:58 pm

INTENSE quoted me $2300 for a basic rebuild with a 6-month warranty. If I want to add race parts it's extra, and it's still warrantied the same 6-months. I assume ZZP has a similar deal. Since they're in MI, I would need to worry about the expense of getting the car to and from. Same with WBS. Also there is the time factor. It would take days to get the car out and back. Even INTENSE can't get you in the same day.

Aamco quoted me $1500 for the basic rebuild with 12-month warranty. If I need parts, it adds up, but not as much (I also have a $100 off coupon). They took my car in today and they're working on it today/tomorrow. I need the car back asap, otherwise I'm paying for a rental. That adds up quick. No race parts from Aamco, but I really don't need that kind of thing. I believe the transaxle failed from use (some abuse), not so much stress.

For me, this really came down to price and time. The 3800 vendors may know our cars, but I have to think Aamco knows transmissions pretty well. The owner has been working in the same shop since 1964. It's right down the street from me (I walked home). There's something to be said for the convenience, price, and turnaround time. I'm not up for doing the install myself right now. It just wasn't a good time for it to go out all at once.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 29, 2007 9:31 am

I think you certainly made the right and well thought out choice, Aaron(that's why you da Boss)............ teach
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 29, 2007 11:03 am

NO MORE NEUTRAL DROPS AARON................. wink
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 29, 2007 10:00 pm

Hmmm I was going to start my own thread when I just noticed this.

Aaron, here's step 1!


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Oh yeah, and ask me why this was on my floor? wink
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 31, 2007 1:48 pm

Holy dropped cradles, Derek... did your transaxle die on you too?

Today I talked with Aamco. They needed to replace a few parts, not sure which ones yet. The unit is apart, will be finished Wed or Thurs. I was told the bill will be closer to $2k, and I expected this would be the case after hearing metal parts grinding.. and finding pieces of them on the magnet.

One thing that surprised me, the Aamco guy asked if I had reprogrammed the transmission TCC engage settings. I didn't lie, and explained that I could set them back. He said if I set them back he would honor the 12-month warranty. Apparently, having mine eager to disengage the TCC worries him a bit. He didn't say anything about the increase trans pressure, shift points, or shifting times. I can handle that. If I must use the lazy OEM TCC settings, I will have to put up with it. I want this transmission rebuild to last just as long as the original unit.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 31, 2007 2:28 pm

Hey guys..

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BTW.. if you want to hear funny trans stories.. talk to Oldsman.. he's got a 3 gear trans.

Sorry to hear if finally died Aaron.. good news is once you get it back, treat it well and it should take care of you.
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyTue Jan 01, 2008 6:29 pm

^That fluid still looks good.
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyTue Jan 01, 2008 6:50 pm

That fluid was new on Oct 3.
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 02, 2008 2:00 am

BillBoost37 wrote:


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OUCH
I WILL NEVER go Wide Open Throttle again nervous nervous







































lol i almost fooled you grimace
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 02, 2008 6:52 am

I didn't actually see mine, but have a feeling it looked as bad or worse than that. They said they saw "parts of gear teeth". sick

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 02, 2008 7:14 am

Crunching up hard parts is never good.

I forget..did you say you considered a gear change while things were apart or Aamco wouldn't do anything modded at all?
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyFri Jan 04, 2008 10:44 am

I really doubt Aamco would consider any mods. They want the unit to last a long time, so i doubt they would do anything that would encourage me to race or otherwise abuse it.

They did not finish yesterday as planned, so I called them and was told they put her back together, but something didn't feel right on the test drive, so now they have it back out. Apparently it was something minor, because they still think it will be finished today.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyFri Jan 04, 2008 4:20 pm

Sorry to hear about your problems Aaron. If you dont mind, post a tally when all is done and paid for. I have gone back and forth from a built race trans, to a aamco rebuild, to dropping in a low miles trans from a junker.

I would never attempt a rebuild on my own, but I think after my engine pulling experience, I wouldnt be afraid to swap in a used one.

I am leery of the race built ones, it seems like a crap shoot...

Anyway, Ive been lucky and havent needed a trans after putting many many miles on multiple rivys...
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PostSubject: Re: Diary of a Dying Transmission   Diary of a Dying Transmission - Page 2 EmptyFri Jan 04, 2008 7:20 pm

Got the car back finally!

Talked to the guy who did the rebuild. His words were, in the 25 years he's been rebuilding automatic transmissions, mine was the most severely damaged that was actually rebuildable. They were very close to using a remanufactured unit, which would cost more. He said the gears were okay, but one piece, I think he called it a "sprag", was totally destroyed. He said the torque converter was blue from the heat.

So here's a list of parts and prices (it's hard to read, so pardon any errors):

Rebuild Kit: $298
Torque Converter: $340
Solenoids & Sensors: $348
Channel Plate: $128
Pump & Stator Shafts: $96
Chain(?): $74
Filter: $16
Fluid: $34
Labor: $734

Subtotal: $2068

Discount: -$100

New Subtotal: $1968

Tax: $132.84

Total: $2100.84

As far as the 12 month / 12k mile warranty, it will be a 6 month warranty for me, as I put lots of miles on the car. They agreed to honor the warranty as long as I set my PCM's transmission settings to stock. So, I agreed to leave it stock for 12k miles, then I'll set it back. The settings affected were TTC disengage, trans fluid pressure, and shift time. He also removed the INTENSE shift pak, but I still have it, and may put it back in after 12k miles.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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