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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:07 am

Has anyone here done this? Twin charged their Riv?
I imagine this would do the job, yeah?
http://shop.zzperformance.com/store/p/188-ZZP-Z7-Turbo-Kit.aspx
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:16 am

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Has anyone here done this? Twin charged their Riv?
I imagine this would do the job, yeah?
http://shop.zzperformance.com/store/p/188-ZZP-Z7-Turbo-Kit.aspx

thats not even a twincharged pic. suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:18 am

the pic came with the link. I am talking about the kit.
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:31 am

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the pic came with the link. I am talking about the kit.

no one has a turbo'd riv.. besides some dude in Florida i believe but its a tube chassis drag car thats fiberglass and uses an earlier model 3.8 with a turbo or 2.. theres vids all over youtube of it. that doesn't count though
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:44 am

I am surprised no one has pushed it to this point yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:51 am

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I am surprised no one has pushed it to this point yet.

I had plans! but I learned that making the power in the 3800 platform was quite silly...
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:22 pm

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I am surprised no one has pushed it to this point yet.

I had plans! but I learned that making the power in the 3800 platform was quite silly...

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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:01 am

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I am surprised no one has pushed it to this point yet.

I had plans! but I learned that making the power in the 3800 platform was quite silly...

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Just sold my regal tonight for some mad Profit though.. I have a soft spot for 3800's... I always will cool Now to find a car to flip with 5K bucks.. shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:23 pm


Check out this build. What do you guys think about the intake port on the side of the headlight like this? I think it's SWEET. Not sure it could be pulled off on the Riv though.
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:42 pm

my question is how much minimum should i be looking to spend....because one does not simply make a plan with out some sort of budget awareness...
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:16 pm

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my question is how much minimum should i be looking to spend....because one does not simply make a plan with out some sort of budget awareness...
$15k
$5k for the Riv
$5k for parts
$5k for everything else
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:22 pm

WHATS EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE I HAVE A RIV ALREADY AND WHERE WUD I GET THEM AND WHAT PARTS WOULD I NEED
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:27 pm

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WHATS EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE I HAVE A RIV ALREADY AND WHERE WUD I GET THEM AND WHAT PARTS WOULD I NEED
Do this: study
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:31 pm

WELL CAN YOU POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BECAUSE I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START LOOKING
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:41 pm

Here's a good place to start

http://rivperformance.editboard.com/t23-faq-modding-101-how-to-increase-acceleration-performance

What's your budget and what do you think your goals are? What's the full current condition of your car?
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:48 pm

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Check out this build. What do you guys think about the intake port on the side of the headlight like this? I think it's SWEET. Not sure it could be pulled off on the Riv though.
Looks like a good build, but intake is tacky. Here's a case where simpler isn't better. FWI does the same thing and isn't visible.

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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:27 am

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WELL CAN YOU POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BECAUSE I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START LOOKING

don't feed the troll flame
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:25 pm

WHAT TROLL?
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:26 pm

AND AS OF NOW I DONT REALLY HAVE A BUDGET BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT ALL I WOULD NEED TO GET SO I CAN MAKE ONE
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:37 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:02 pm

Yum, wonder how it feels
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:09 pm

THAT'S how you do it. Stock engine, mostly stock exhaust, 1.9 rockers, then twincharge it to run 12s. I like his style. Complex instsllation, simple idea.

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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:10 pm

I had a similar idea with my riviera, but because it seems so complex I kinda just let it go lol
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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:12 pm

I wish I had more time. That's the ultimate power mod.

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PostSubject: Re: Twin Charging   Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:59 am

You don't see this configuration very often. There's a lot of debate on whether or not the turbo intake should run into the blower or if it should integrate into the intake manifold after the blower.

Some say the supercharger becomes a restriction others say it does not. Some people say the dual set up is completely inefficient (because of heat output) compared to either just a blower or just a turbo. But then you see people who actually do it and they get great results.

I think it really comes down to how you transition between the supercharger and turbo in making boost. From what I've read, you want a smooth transition. instead of the supercharger disengaging and then then turbo starting to spool. You want the spool to start right when the supercharger is peaking and then transition over.

From what i've seen, everyone whos done this to the 3800 runs the turbo right through the blower with no problem.

Can't wait to see the first twincharged Riv!
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