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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:33 pm

I just saw PRJ Paul and he was telling me someone he knew from I think CA got a cartuning turbo setup in his Riviera and that it was a pain to install and contantly had issues dealing with that kit. He made it seem like the the kit sucked, not that the g vs. w body was the problem. I know nothing really about these kits though - just what he told me.
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:59 pm

I can tell you from local experience that turbo 3800s are extremely difficult to tune, and most tuners do not have the experience necessary to handle the potential of the turbo. Turbos have a TON of potential, but every 3800 turbo build I've seen is demodded about 6 months later.
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:39 am

turtleman wrote:
I just saw PRJ Paul and he was telling me someone he knew from I think CA got a cartuning turbo setup in his Riviera and that it was a pain to install and contantly had issues dealing with that kit. He made it seem like the the kit sucked, not that the g vs. w body was the problem. I know nothing really about these kits though - just what he told me.

I've seen issues with plumbing popping off during spirited runs with many turbo kits but that only seems like the first few runs. After that, they seem to hold together well. I'm planning on throwing a decent sized one in the Regal this winter along with heads. Hoping to dip into the 11s if the trans doesn't shit its pants.
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PostSubject: anyone ever turbocharged their riv?   Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:26 pm

found this video on youtube of a turboed 1999 regal, thought it was pretty sick! I also found a turbo kit on zzp for our engines, how simple can it be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXe8XnWsVag&feature=c4-overview&list=UU7bVFaRVBk9a5mlPBXPE3yg
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:28 pm

I think Alfa Romeo or Lancia was the first car supercharged and turbocharched.
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:32 pm

I'm sure everything on the engine side would be fairly straight forward. however if you were to run a front mount intercooler im sure there would be some fabrication required.
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:36 pm

I think its sweet! way out of budget for me tho
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:06 pm

Or maybe twin charger....haha
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:00 pm

Pff! how bout a fat Whipple charger!? I'll take one of those any day!
I don't know,a supercharger is just so...American.I like that.
Bring the blower!
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:10 pm

hahaha that's what im saying!
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:44 pm

It looks to be a PITA but I wanna be the one to do it one day
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:05 pm

I wish we had the 5.3 in our cars
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:28 pm

400hp
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:57 pm

stan wrote:
400hp
jist 304 not much over ours
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:00 pm

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Pff! how bout a fat Whipple charger!? I'll take one of those any day!
I don't know,a supercharger is just so...American.I like that.
Bring the blower!
how much in parts would we have to change to run that twin screw in our cars
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:53 pm

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robotennis61 wrote:
Pff! how bout a fat Whipple charger!? I'll take one of those any day!
I don't know,a supercharger is just so...American.I like that.
Bring the blower!
how much in parts would we have to change to run that twin screw in our cars
Not even the foggiest?
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:15 pm

It is doable I've seen it on here I think, or regal gs but it had a whipple on it wish I could see it in action
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PostSubject: Gen V + XP or Z7 Turbo   Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:41 am

What do you think?

with similar basic supporting mods, a GenV swap and XP cam or a Z7 turbo.

I am getting closer to moving forward with the GenV and XP but I want to be sure the turbo is not the right answer before I commit.

Turbo would cost more to do but the HP would be quite a bit more than the GenV + XP. I am only going to do this once so I want to make sure I make the right decision the 1st time.
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:02 am

If you have the money and don't mind spending it, get a turbo. I thought you already had your GenV ready to bolt on?
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:29 am

I have the genV. I just want to get it polished prior to install with xp cam.

I just have 2nd thoughts on just going turbo before i commit to this. ya know?

Go big or go home, right?
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:00 am

Well, if you go turbo I'll take the GenV off your hands.
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:23 am

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Go big or go home, right?


GenV is GenV. cool

Turbo is turbo. cool

To "go big", do them both: http://rivperformance.editboard.com/t1710-twin-charging burnout

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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:49 am

no interested in twin charging.

I either want to go xp and genV swap in the next couple months or keep saving for full out turbo.
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:33 pm

Based off Heavykevy's regal as a familiar example, I don't see the need to twin-charge if the turbo is sized right, assuming the chief point of using the blower along with the turbo is to spool the turbo faster. His turbo spools quick as shit - really they need to negate some of that initial torque so they can launch it. I liked the idea of it but in reality, the turbo will be held back by the blower when push comes to shove (pun intended).
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PostSubject: Re: turbo'd 3800 thoughts.   Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:00 pm

Xp and gen v swap will be around $3k and turbo around 7.5k

Turbo will yield 90-100 more hp?

I would rather go all the way if I'm going to do this. Can you help me decide?
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