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PostSubject: Re: turbo mod for 3800 series I?   turbo mod for 3800 series I? - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 30, 2010 9:12 am

yeah thats whats i was trying to say is ZZP's design looks like a quick and dirty way also. Not the most efficient way. I do aggre again with 97 park that a whole new rear manofold is a must or there will be way to much back pressure and prolly heat for that matter. That would make the back 3 have to work much harder than the front 3. And that design would prolly make some KR also. A Y pipe would benefit the turbo setup alot. If someone could fab these up for us there prolly would be a nice market for them here

And I would like to add that the link Karma posted above read it. Ive read alot of the link provided in the thread and there all really good to get you started. Moates is a great place to get that stuff. I got all my stuff from them for my last car which was a 94 civic turbocharged and tuning was great with the products they carry. ECU chipping for like $8. i Couldnt beat it. This GM tuning is something totally new to me but tuning isnt.
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What I would really like is if some of the very very few who have turbo'd the riv series 1 would visit this thread and give some imput
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bullseye-shawn wrote:
What I would really like is if some of the very very few who have turbo'd the riv series 1 would visit this thread and give some imput
im sure theres less than you think, i dont remember hearing of anyone turboing the series I here, theres a guy over on regalgsx doing a series I turbo build on a lesabre t-type but thats all ive heard of. sorry i cant be of more help
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97 park ave wrote:
bullseye-shawn wrote:
What I would really like is if some of the very very few who have turbo'd the riv series 1 would visit this thread and give some imput
im sure theres less than you think, i dont remember hearing of anyone turboing the series I here, theres a guy over on regalgsx doing a series I turbo build on a lesabre t-type but thats all ive heard of. sorry i cant be of more help

Yeah, I've been here awhile, and as far as I know, there are exactly 0 turbo-ed Rivieras on the site. For both series one and two.

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ill def take a look over there. Everyones help is awesome, I think if between all of us if we can get all the bugs worked out of a turbo build for a daily driver than there might be a big market for them. I for one going from a turbocharged toy to a supercharged car I sure miss the sound and power of the turbo, and the blow off valve . Another thing to keep in mind is twin charging would be possible too. I wouldnt want that kind of power for a daily driver but it still would be fun to say I have done it to a riv
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i hate always doggin on the series I but IMO pick up a cheap L26 and go to town...
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97 park ave wrote:
i hate always doggin on the series I but IMO pick up a cheap L26 and go to town...

Any way we turbo a riv would be awesome for the gtp guys. Have a riv just waste a m90'd gtp with pulley, pcm and all the others
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I was told that its done on the 5.0L mustangs all the time... I don't understand how though? I actually just heard about this from that guy yesterday when he suggested I do it to mine. He was saying that its not uncommon, I just thought he was bullshitting, cuz usually things that are "common", you would hear about, right? Or is this doable?
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Have a riv just waste a m90'd gtp with pulley, pcm and all the others
I've done this on street and at the track with my M90'd Riviera!

GTPs are a little lighter, but it's not as big an advantage as most think.

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bullseye-shawn wrote:
97 park ave wrote:
i hate always doggin on the series I but IMO pick up a cheap L26 and go to town...

Any way we turbo a riv would be awesome for the gtp guys. Have a riv just waste a m90'd gtp with pulley, pcm and all the others
thats why i said L26, its the non supercharged series III 3800 with powdered rods...perfect for a turbo application...


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I was told that its done on the 5.0L mustangs all the time... I don't understand how though? I actually just heard about this from that guy yesterday when he suggested I do it to mine. He was saying that its not uncommon, I just thought he was bullshitting, cuz usually things that are "common", you would hear about, right? Or is this doable?
anything is doable, you can turbo anything with an engine how do you not know that? its just a matter of whats easy and whats hard. before there was zzp's turbo kits im sure there was someone that threw a turbo on a 3800, but now that its easy theres a ton of turbo 3800s. you CAN turbo the series I, its just after the trouble of having to fabricate EVERYTHING because theres no aftermarket for them , then tuning it, and whatever other problems you run in to, is it really worth it? with the time/money spent doing that you could easily swap in a series II or III AND turbo it.


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AA wrote:
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Have a riv just waste a m90'd gtp with pulley, pcm and all the others
I've done this on street and at the track with my M90'd Riviera!

GTPs are a little lighter, but it's not as big an advantage as most think.

thats what i was going to say too, theres plenty of m90 bonnevilles/rivs/ and park aves that will smoke gtps and regals. so theres no doubt in my mind a JUST turboed riv would walk a gtp. my NA park ave can almost hang with a 3.4 gtp, too bad hes sellin it cause after the top swap i wouldve killed him...
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Well when I Turbo mine there will for sure be a mod thread made all about it for you guys and any fabbing I do will also be offered to all you guys. I'm hoping when I do mine a lot of you guys will to
And with my list its coming way under zzp prices. A lot of there price is for the r&d though so I see why it cost what it does
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bullseye-shawn wrote:
Well when I Turbo mine there will for sure be a mod thread made all about it for you guys and any fabbing I do will also be offered to all you guys. I'm hoping when I do mine a lot of you guys will to
And with my list its coming way under zzp prices. A lot of there price is for the r&d though so I see why it cost what it does
im not doubting you im just laying out your options, but since you do all youre own work thats great! good luck with everything i cant wait to see what you do thumbsup
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really the only thing holding me up is tuning, and the moneyor lack of for all the cables-software ill need
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97 park ave wrote:
bullseye-shawn wrote:
97 park ave wrote:
i hate always doggin on the series I but IMO pick up a cheap L26 and go to town...

Any way we turbo a riv would be awesome for the gtp guys. Have a riv just waste a m90'd gtp with pulley, pcm and all the others
thats why i said L26, its the non supercharged series III 3800 with powdered rods...perfect for a turbo application...


Hometown Hero wrote:
I was told that its done on the 5.0L mustangs all the time... I don't understand how though? I actually just heard about this from that guy yesterday when he suggested I do it to mine. He was saying that its not uncommon, I just thought he was bullshitting, cuz usually things that are "common", you would hear about, right? Or is this doable?
anything is doable, you can turbo anything with an engine how do you not know that? its just a matter of whats easy and whats hard. before there was zzp's turbo kits im sure there was someone that threw a turbo on a 3800, but now that its easy theres a ton of turbo 3800s. you CAN turbo the series I, its just after the trouble of having to fabricate EVERYTHING because theres no aftermarket for them , then tuning it, and whatever other problems you run in to, is it really worth it? with the time/money spent doing that you could easily swap in a series II or III AND turbo it.

Yeah thats what I was getting at by the word "uncommon". He was referring to the commonality of 5.0L mustangs with the set up, not 95 Series 1 Rivieras. I am aware that with enough coin, anything can be done, even if it means turbos on a SC'd car. I guess the real question is, is it worth it? If I am gunna go to all that trouble to tune and turbo a series 1, why not just get a different engine, like a more mod friendly II or III? Or better yet, why not drive my real muscle car? I think I'll stick to the low hassle and almost maintenance free modded SC, and LIM. Less boost, less power, but you can afford to drive it, and I don't have to drop $2000+ adding turbos, tuning, and fabricating. Last time I checked "pioneering" something isn't cheap. Bottom line, I have another "muscle car" for a reason. wink
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Has anyone turbocharged a series 1 l67?
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RidzRiv wrote:
Has anyone turbocharged a series 1 l67?


Yes, I have seen them.  I saw one at The Norwalk Buick Raceday. 90's Regal.  It was intercooled also.  It ran low 11's at 130 + MPH with a slow 2 second 60" time.  I am sure he must have modified the transmission and axles because a turbo 3800 will easily overwhelm a stock trans axle.  His launch was unbelievably sluggish at the track but the top end charge was awesome.  I have some pictures of it somewhere.

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