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PostSubject: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyTue Jan 15, 2008 1:16 am

a while back i bought a 2.5 pully from www.superchargersandaccessories.com a sc rebuilding outfit in cali i think, they have been in business since the seventies and are with the b.b.b and are very helpful. when i told them i wanted to get a smaller pully,they sold me 1 for around $50 including shipping. when i asked about what oil to use they gave me a formula to make my own,and the same formula thay have been using for years with no problem....i just cant find the paper i wrote it on,but just wanted to let u guys know while the thought is still fresh in the head. drop em a line and save a bundle!..the 2 or so ozs i bought at gm before i started to get into modding cost me something like $12....rip off ,imo......
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyTue Jan 15, 2008 1:45 am

Good point. The dealers will rip you off if you let them. The mark-up is ridiculous!

But sorry, I have to say this "custom blend" is a bad idea. You can buy GM SC oil here for 6.99/bottle + shipping. Get the good stuff at near half the price... problem solved:

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=154&catid=106

Maybe this SC & Accessories has something that will work, but we already know the GM formula works, and is recommended by Eaton. How much more does it cost to be 100% safe vs. taking a chance with something that isn't proven? Maybe 5-10 bucks every 25-50k miles?

Not saying SC & Assoc isn't legit, but why would anyone want to take the risk to find out?

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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyTue Jan 15, 2008 2:51 am

oh...i thought it was gonna be a formula for S/C oil derived from marijuana resin or something...thatd be funny
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyTue Jan 15, 2008 9:53 am

FYI, Intense just had a sale where they were selling 8oz bottles (that is double the size of the GM bottles) for like $4 each.

I stocked up wink
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyTue Jan 15, 2008 3:11 pm

AA wrote:
Good point. The dealers will rip you off if you let them. The mark-up is ridiculous!

But sorry, I have to say this "custom blend" is a bad idea. You can buy GM SC oil here for 6.99/bottle + shipping. Get the good stuff at near half the price... problem solved:

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=154&catid=106

Maybe this SC & Accessories has something that will work, but we already know the GM formula works, and is recommended by Eaton. How much more does it cost to be 100% safe vs. taking a chance with something that isn't proven? Maybe 5-10 bucks every 25-50k miles?

Not saying SC & Assoc isn't legit, but why would anyone want to take the risk to find out?


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You also have to take into consideration the GM oil was designed for these SC's what if that homade stuff doesnt have a certain additive or chemical that a bearing or seal needs to work properly?!
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyTue Jan 15, 2008 3:36 pm

I heard that 5w30 synthetic could also be used without issue, and I have been using it for a year now. any thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyTue Jan 15, 2008 4:05 pm

well i cant say for sure but i think the supercharger oil was engineered to operate under certain condition for the temperature and with a certain viscosity...while 5w30may protect to an extent, its probably not ideal.. and a higher viscosity oil would certainly have more parasitic loss...though how significant that would be i can't say.
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyTue Jan 15, 2008 4:55 pm

I think it was on the bonnivile club forum or maybe regalgs that i read that.. but I think ill be switching to the real deal in the riv shortly
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyTue Jan 15, 2008 5:02 pm

97rivman wrote:
oh...i thought it was gonna be a formula for S/C oil derived from marijuana resin or something...thatd be funny

that would be sweeet joy
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptySat Feb 09, 2008 11:23 am

update on home made s/c oil:...50% mobil 1 5w30 50% lucas oil stabilizer. i think i might try it.
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptySat Feb 09, 2008 12:25 pm

robotennis61 wrote:
update on home made s/c oil:...50% mobil 1 5w30 50% lucas oil stabilizer. i think i might try it.

well if u need to buy a supercharger i have one laying around tongue tongue
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptySat Feb 09, 2008 12:27 pm

Karma wrote:
I heard that 5w30 synthetic could also be used without issue, and I have been using it for a year now. any thoughts?

It does say that in the owners manual. At least on a Series 1.
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptySat Feb 09, 2008 2:01 pm

yeah don't forget we're talking about a series I here. The oil you guys mentioned from zzp, intense etc is the series II oil. I don't know what the recommended stuff is for the series I but I'd guess it's different. If the owners manual says 5w30 syn is okay than that's the way to go.
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptySun Feb 10, 2008 1:19 am

i think my supercharger is ok. just want to flush it out and add fresh oil. but thanks for the offer scoopy!...btw i installed autolite 104s and 180 thermo,tons better ride! dont have a cai yet,but soon.......
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyMon Mar 03, 2008 9:39 am

i put the 50/50 mix in and so far so good! she runs real quiet now too! update in a couple thou miles. btw,she is going to need a new coupler soon.mine is kinda worn out with some play. oh well...thats what money is for.......
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyMon Mar 03, 2008 2:01 pm

Keep us posted. I've been runing the mobil1 5w30 in my 95 for awhile now. I might try the 50% with lucas though if it seems to work well for you.

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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyMon Mar 03, 2008 3:01 pm

ok. but mix that lucas oil stabilizer with the 5w30. i dont know what it does ,except maybe stabilize the oil at high revs,but the tech told me they use nothing but. so maybe you should consider draining the s/c ,if youre going to use 5w30 anyway,and add the lucas o/s........just my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 4:40 am

almost a thousand miles later,and the home brew is still working good! the s/c has lost alot of the bearing noise that it had with the gm oil. maybe it just need to be replaced but,this stuff works.........
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 8:55 am

These blowers are near indestructible. I think they will run a long time on the original fill.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyThu Mar 27, 2008 6:34 pm

good to know! the gm manual for the 95,recomends 5w30 also. so i think im ok. the lucas that i added is very good stuff. maybe i should have run just 5w30 for awhile to see if there was i difference in sound. she is real quiet now.
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyWed Apr 30, 2008 6:18 am

still going strong on the mix! 1000 mile later!
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyWed Apr 30, 2008 9:03 am

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the gm manual for the 95,recomends 5w30 also

Are you saying the manual says to put motor oil in your blower?

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyWed Apr 30, 2008 9:49 am

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the gm manual for the 95,recomends 5w30 also

Are you saying the manual says to put motor oil in your blower?

The only references I've ever found have said to check and top off with GM SC oil only at 30,000 mile intervals.
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyWed Apr 30, 2008 10:51 am

BillBoost37 wrote:
AA wrote:
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the gm manual for the 95,recomends 5w30 also

Are you saying the manual says to put motor oil in your blower?

The only references I've ever found have said to check and top off with GM SC oil only at 30,000 mile intervals.

Series I don't forget. He really needs to put that in his Sig to help us avoid this exact type of confusion.
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PostSubject: Re: home made sc oil   home made sc oil EmptyWed Apr 30, 2008 10:59 am

I am told GM lists part #12345982, or "equivalent 5W30 synthetic oil" for use in Series I blowers. Adding the Lucas Goosejuice probably helps some, but I have no experience with either. My blower is Series II and I use the GM stinkjuice-in-a-bottle.

I am also told some of the Paxton blowers used one or another spec of plain old ATF.

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