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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:10 am

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NO INTERCOOLER for me, i dont plan on using one for the supercharger. ive got enough airflow between the cam and valves that i dont have to worry about kr too much yet.

my intentions are twin turbo.

arent you only running a 3.4 pulley though, or stock?

and aren't your fuel pump/injectors upgraded?

all that IMHO means you can easily get away without an intercooler.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:04 am

dreww wrote:
97rivman wrote:
NO INTERCOOLER for me, i dont plan on using one for the supercharger. ive got enough airflow between the cam and valves that i dont have to worry about kr too much yet.

my intentions are twin turbo.

arent you only running a 3.4 pulley though, or stock?

and aren't your fuel pump/injectors upgraded?

all that IMHO means you can easily get away without an intercooler.

Exactly. cheers but ive got the 3" pulley on right now and the way its tuned right now, it will run fine...the only problem is the 3 inchs of snow everywhere. But when its 10* who needs an intercooler?
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PostSubject: Intercooler radiators   Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:25 pm

I'm looking on ebay, and i've seen alot of low priced intercooler radiators, but they're mostly listed for specific makes/models, now is this just something for fitting and related to the size turbo, or would they be usable on a setup like ours?

I know zzp lists the recommended minimum sized radiator for our setup or something like ours is 24.25x13x2, .37 gallons fluid capacity and rated at 65,400 BTU.

I don't know much about turbos or turbo setups, do turbo intercooler radiators differ from those designed for blowers?
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:23 pm

I thought Ford Probe radiators fit the GTP/GS, not sure about the Riviera.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:29 pm

Is it just a clearance and space issue? Or does it have something to do with plumbing?
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:33 pm

don't sc intercooler sit in the lower intake?
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:10 pm

They are liquid cooled, so the radiator goes up front. The core goes under the blower.

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EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus SS lines Brembo slotted discs DHP tuned Aeroforce Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:03 pm

Could you use a radiator designed for a turbo ic setup with a s/c ic core?
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:27 pm

Dont get confused. Turbos often use an Air to Air intercooler rad. If you are getting an IC for your Blower, you want a water/air radiator.

You can usually spot the difference at the intake. An Air to air will have large 3-4in intakes for moving high velocity air.

I would figure out how much room you have and get the biggest that will fit.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:02 pm

Gotcha. I haven't found any water to air radiators that are cheaper than the ones zzp make, it's probably the safest bet.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:32 pm

I installed the Intense kit of a few years back into a GTP, it had two smaller radiator the size of large oil coolers that were seperated around the hood latch support. I thought it was a very nice install and clean setup.

I have often considered how much I could gain from one of the thinner IC cores, with the coolant routed from the water pump to the heater core to the heat exchangers to the IC back to the engine, thus with no pump needed for that circuit. I know the coolant would probably only get down to 130 or so, but with a setup like that I would run a 160 tstat in the summers and with my own PowerTuner can always kick the radiator fans to high plus crank the heat to help cool more coolant wink
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:20 am

I took a quick look on Ebay, and the ZZP rads are not bad for what you get. Upside is that they are Aluminum and cheap, downside are the plastic end caps. An all aluminum rad would be best, but you pay for that.

These are all over ebay and look pretty nice, but you would want to run two of them like deekster saw
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-95-Civic-Del-Sol-DX-EX-Si-Racing-Aluminum-Radiator_W0QQitemZ280203482981QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280203482981
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:39 pm

I received my heat exchanger/radiator for my intercooler setup today. It should require little to no cutting for fitment. I am using the stock radiator collant overflow tank as the new IC tank and mounting a reservoiur for the new radiator tank. I'll post pix of install next week.


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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:07 pm

awesome. Let me know along the way if you have any questions. I have lots of pictures from a few GTP IC installs.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:09 pm

ewolfe0050 wrote:
I received my heat exchanger/radiator for my intercooler setup today. It should require little to no cutting for fitment. I am using the stock radiator collant overflow tank as the new IC tank and mounting a reservoiur for the new radiator tank. I'll post pix of install next week.


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Very nice! I like the idea of using the overflow tank. Saves you some space. Did your core ever get installed? Which radiator is that on frozenboost.com?
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:26 pm

We are in the process of machining the LIM right now. We should have everything on within the next weeek. I was planning on plumbing the IC and putting the 2.8 on next month but it's all here now except for the IC pump. We thought the IC radiator would be the hold up.

The radiator is style 101.
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PostSubject: thrasher intercooler   Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:29 pm

http://www.thrashercharged.com/L67_htm/new_cooler.shtm

i thought i heard thrasher isnt in business anymore, anybody else see this intercooler before?
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:54 pm

Yep, I've seen it. It's been out for about 10 years. Good luck finding one!

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:49 am

Supposedly its one of the best ( if not the best) intercooler you can get on the market.

Unfortunately you can't get it on the market anymore , so right now zzp is the only company who sells intercoolers.

the zzp intercoolers are pretty nice as well i'm told.

Many with intercoolers recommend it as an early mod. Theres a regal on regalgs.org that ran a 13.4 or 13.5 with just an intercooler , plog+downpipe and intake. Stock throttle body , blower , rockers and cam. Basically just injectors , intercooler and a 3.0 , yeilds pretty impessive gains.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:33 am

TonySmooth89 wrote:
the zzp intercoolers are pretty nice as well i'm told.

Their core may be good, but their intercooler looks like a big triangle. ZZP is currently the only vendor selling new at the moment. I picked up a WBS and it's a thing of beauty. It is cut to match the SC and looks great. They took the time to do it right and shave off the excess aluminum.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:56 am

I really liked that 1st gen 3" core W-Body came out with, but something happened and they stopped selling it. If I were getting an IC, I'd get one from W-Body.

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3.4" pulley AL104 plugs 180 t-stat FWI w/K&N 1.9:1 rockers OR pushrods LS6 valve springs SLP headers ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts MaxAir shocks Addco sway bars UMI bushings GM STB Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus SS lines Brembo slotted discs DHP tuned Aeroforce Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: Installing Intercooler (IC)   Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:05 am

I totally got sidetracked by the triangle thing.

The thrasher cores were amazing looking. I only saw pictures and I drooled. IMO the WBS is right there with it...but Thrasher had one sexy IC.
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PostSubject: Intercooler   Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:26 pm

Anyone running their car with an intercooler installed like this one sold at ZZP?



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PostSubject: intercooler   Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:17 pm

http://www.3800pro.com/forum/sale/22451-fs-intercooler-setup-az.html

with some moddin is this a good deal?
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