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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:39 pm

ZZP has the covers, under the Appearance" section. $250

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=863&catid=101
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:28 pm

That's it?

Not very fancy looking for $250. I'd at least expect chrome. Maybe I should get some from a yard and have them chromed.
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:31 pm

RegalGS had a group buy on billet aluminum valve covers - $250 per SIDE if I remember right.

Fuel rails are tres expensive, with exception to the ZZP modified stockers and these:

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=AEI%2D14131&N=700+115&autoview=sku

I don't believe the o-rings are a huge deal, although GM shop manual says to change them whenever you have the injectors out.

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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:45 pm

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ewolfe - Does anyone make dress up valve covers for the L67? I thought ZZP did but I didn't see them on their site.

I'm new to this fuel injection stuff. Looking at BillBoost37's thread, it appears the fuel rails aren't included in his parts list like I initially thought they were. What brand do you recommend, what are the issues with fuel rails?

How can I tell if a fitting comes with an o-ring or not?

ZZP and I believe PRJ might have the valve covers available.

I would recommed PRJ on the fuel rails although the ones Summit has looks interesting. BillBoost37 has the PRJ rails. No issues with the rails that I know of. If you decide to go intercooled, stay away from the spacers available. Two more places per injector to leak... and you don't want fuel spilling on a hot engine!

The fittings should say in their description. Try looking at some of the AN to AN fittings O-Ring fittings online at Summit.
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:23 am

AA wrote:
RegalGS had a group buy on billet aluminum valve covers - $250 per SIDE if I remember right.

Fuel rails are tres expensive, with exception to the ZZP modified stockers and these:

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=AEI%2D14131&N=700+115&autoview=sku

I don't believe the o-rings are a huge deal, although GM shop manual says to change them whenever you have the injectors out.

Ha ha flow capabilities to support 2000 hp engines. I don't think we'll be needing those rails any time soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:38 am

Maybe you need to be the first to go turbo...
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:32 am

The only downside to the PRJ's and probably all solutions is the movement of the plastic lines. They like to seem as if they will kink at any moment.
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:24 am

ewolfe0050 wrote:
Maybe you need to be the first to go turbo...

Whether the L67 can take that much boost aside, how much torque steer are you fighting with 400 hp?
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:43 am

Ever watch the video of JasonGS from RegalGS.org - running 11s with 2 fingers on the wheel?

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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:00 am

Torque steer hasn't been an issue at all really. I remember driving a Z24 Cavilier that would dart all over the place under WOT. Not in the Riv. The only time it becomes noticable is when I'm going 55ish and hammer it to pass someone...
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:00 am

ewolfe0050 wrote:
Torque steer hasn't been an issue at all really. I remember driving a Z24 Cavilier that would dart all over the place under WOT. Not in the Riv. The only time it becomes noticable is when I'm going 55ish and hammer it to pass someone...
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:07 pm

Remarkable.

How much hp do you think the Riv can handle before torque steer becomes a problem?
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:25 pm

Torque steer went away when the LSD went into mine. It's nice. My GS had brutal torque steer for a stock car.
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:54 pm

How much power are you up to?
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:39 am

Not sure. I'm more of a butt dyno kinda guy than I am a track hound or actually go to a dyno to find out.

One day when I'm done modding, maybe I'll get there.
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PostSubject: Re: Fuel Rails   Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:20 am

Does anyone know if the Holden fuel rails will bolt up? They look to be IC friendly and cheap...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VN-VP-VR-Holden-Commodore-Fuel-Injector-Rail-92080731-Replacement-EFI-Buick-/331536974286?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item4d3124c1ce&vxp=mtr

http://esprit.gatewaybbs.com.au/~vrtidy/modifying_the_vs_ecotec_v6_fuel.htm

http://www.forceovermass.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=162&sid=a1d5aa9f54e91b0ed09a34a54d1e41f9
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