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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:37 pm

Very cool! Nice work on the paint, looks clean.

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PostSubject: F-Body Brake Mod   Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:38 pm

im buying Cody's(turtleman) rims 19" konig imagine's , with the bigger size i dont want to risk my braking .what is the F-body brake mod . just bigger rotors and F-body calipers or what
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:03 pm

The F-body brake upgrade generally refers to upgrading to 12-13 inch rotors and to 2 piston calipers. For your year, you are going to need 1997 riviera front spindles. They sell the kit at the w-body store.

http://www.wbodystore.com/grandprix/w-body-store-12-inch-dual-piston-brake-kit-p-82.html

http://www.wbodystore.com/grandprix/w-body-store-13-inch-dual-piston-brake-kit-now-includes-lines-p-228.html
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:46 am

wont it be easier to go to a junk/scrap yard and get a set of F-body calipers and then order a set of 12" rotors
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:32 am

That's what I did but I also have a '97. You will need the '97+ spindle to do this. It shouldn't be that difficult. I think after locating the spindle you need to machine the holes to fit the ball joints it think. There's some trhead on how to do it somewhere here...
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:35 am

ok thank Eric
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:41 am

I would be interested in finding that Write up too.......... i think i might do that mod......
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:48 am

so could i get a list im going to the bone yard in the morning(well non cuz im sleeping in)
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:14 pm

97+ riviera spindle (lower knuckle)
f-body caliper
f-body caliper bracket and hardware
12" rotors
pads for a f-body
posible longer brake lines
that should be all, but then again i havent done this so i cant say for sure.
rivman did this on his 95 and he is the one who did the write up. i dont know where it is (either it has been moved to this site or it is still on regalgs.org i also think rivmans cardomain site had some pics of the mod wink

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:16 pm

thanks for the help guys
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PostSubject: test   Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:37 pm

from: http://rivperformance.editboard.com/suspension-handling-f6/grinding-noise-but-good-brake-pads-t2748.htm

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Jack the R: I wanted to do the F-body brake mod, but the more I think about it, I'd rather keep this car stealthy, and the f-body brake mod would require bigger rims. So I may do what he suggested after all, or go with the Hawk brake pads and Summit cross-drilled/slotted rotors.

F-body brake mod won't cause you to get a larger rim. The difference is that they are dual pot and aluminum. They might cover a little more rotor but they don't stick out or up any further.

but the more I think about it, I'd rather keep this car stealthy

The cross drilled/vented rotors will draw more attention than the LS1 calipers.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:58 pm

So the F-body brakes can be fit with 16" OEM chromes?

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3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180Ί t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:05 pm

AA,

Don't hold me to it but, yes, I think they will clear the stock wheels. they have fins but I would doubt they add more than 1/4" to the diameter. If anyone is near by me, I would be happy to see if stock would fit.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:25 pm

Mr.Riviera wrote:
97+ riviera spindle (lower knuckle)
f-body caliper
f-body caliper bracket and hardware
12" rotors
pads for a f-body
posible longer brake lines
that should be all, but then again i havent done this so i cant say for sure.
rivman did this on his 95 and he is the one who did the write up. i dont know where it is (either it has been moved to this site or it is still on regalgs.org i also think rivmans cardomain site had some pics of the mod wink


OK. I am very interested in doing this mod. But what kind of rotors do I get? F-body rotors?
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:34 pm

ewolfe0050 wrote:
F-body brake mod won't cause you to get a larger rim. The difference is that they are dual pot and aluminum. They might cover a little more rotor but they don't stick out or up any further.

Did you stay with an 11" rotor? I didn't know that was an option.

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but the more I think about it, I'd rather keep this car stealthy

The cross drilled/vented rotors will draw more attention than the LS1 calipers.

Ah, I'm only worried about drawing extra police attention while speeding. I'm not worried about guys wanting to race me, since I won't do street racing.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:20 am

I have a '98 with the 12" (nominal) rotors.

Can I just put F-body calipers/brackets on the fronts? No other changes (like a proportioning valve or some such)? and they'll work right?

Please advise, thanks.

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:54 am

Albertj,

It's as was as easy as that.  You need the front calipers from the LSI (I think my are from a 2000) and the brackets.  You should be able to find brackets from the junk yard 20-40$ just make sure the floating pins float.  I bought reman calipers from the local parts store so I wouldn't have to screw with rebuilding them myself.  You will need a small spacer which is addressed in this writeup...  At the end, I detached my brake line mounting bracket from the strut and zip tied it out of the way until my slightly longer SS brake lines were built.  I don't see why you couldn't permantly use the ziptie...

http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=2434239&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

VERY EASY MOD TO DO!

Note from Admin: DO NOT USE THE BUSHING SPACER SLEEVES AS SHOWN IN THE CLUBGP WRITE-UP. THESE HAVE SHOWN TO WEAR AND CAUSE LOOSENING OF THE CALIPER. SOLUTION - HAVE YOUR F-BODY BRACKETS DRILLED AND TAPPED TO ACCEPT THE OEM BUICK CALIPER BOLTS.

If you can't cut and paste the link go to www.clubgp.com and look in their forum about F1 brake mod.

Dosen't matter whether you order for a '97 or up Riv or F-Body. Same rotors.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:50 pm

Wow, that ClubGP write-up was the shiz-nit. I'm going to do this sometime this year. Guess we'll find out for sure if they clear the 16" chromes.

I was just at AutoZone. They have Fenco remanufactured calipers for 2000 Z28 for $40.99 per side + 40.00 core. I don't think they would accept my calipers for a core, or else I might've gotten them.

Also, W-body store has these PBR calipers as part of a kit for $290. Anyone know if this kit includes the correct brackets and hardware? Looks like it should work:


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3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180Ί t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:52 pm

AA wrote:



wow NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!banana
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:20 pm

they also have a kit for $20. then you supply the pads, calipers and brackets.
great deal if you find a f-body in the bone yard.

btw their site says it comes with caliper brackets and everything you would need for a w-body. not sure what differs on the g-body front brakes...

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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:18 pm

Ordered Hawk HPS pads for F-body today from www.turbowholesale.com ($75)



Found a set of used calipers at www.clevelandpickapart.com ($114)



Waiting for everything to arrive, then... Let the games begin!

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3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180Ί t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:45 pm

You will need to get the sleaves that fit inside the caliper bolt holes or else you will need to tap them so the new Fbody caliper bolts will fit. Looks good! I'm curious if you will feel better about the Hawk brakes with this setup. Didn't you have problems with them before?

Note from Admin: DO NOT USE THE BUSHING SPACER SLEEVES AS SHOWN IN THE CLUBGP WRITE-UP. THESE HAVE SHOWN TO WEAR AND CAUSE LOOSENING OF THE CALIPER. SOLUTION - HAVE YOUR F-BODY BRACKETS DRILLED AND TAPPED TO ACCEPT THE OEM BUICK CALIPER BOLTS.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:31 am

I used Hawk ceramics before. I'm hoping the HPS composite material will work better. I never disliked the Hawk's performance, but I thought they should've lasted longer than they did.

Might as well paint them, too. I'm thinking black, silver, or gold.

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3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180Ί t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:34 am

Black or silver.


I disagree with gold.
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PostSubject: Re: Write-Up: F-Body Brake Mod   Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:50 am

Thanks. Yeah, black is great because it won't show dirt, but silver is good for being easier to clean. Hmm.

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3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180Ί t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch


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