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PostSubject: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:37 pm

I know that I have a leaky master cylinder, and plan to replace it soon. When the fluid starts to get low, the light on the dash comes on, and annoys the hell out of me. I add fluid, all is well for a week or so. Sometimes, I get in, and I bump the emergency pedal, and it will light up the dash.
Today, I was a little low on fluid, the light just came on, so I put some in, but the light has not gone off. I stopped after a bit, and checked. Still has plenty of fluid, does not appear to have dropped any. Emergency pedal is up. Car has fresh pads for about 1k miles.
Any thoughts while I am at work without my manual?
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:40 pm

this sound, I know it's really annoying.Just try to put some more it worked for me now it's just over the mark and everything ok.
good luck
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:42 pm

Did not want to say this, but I did accidentally over fill it. Had my eyes dialated, and missed the mark. Did not over flow it, just filled it up to the neck. Gonna have to find out how to disable the ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:45 pm

find the buzzer and cut the wire(weel maybe it will also stob buzz
when you forgot your flashers)ding,ding,ding......
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PostSubject: brake light and chime during traction loss   Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:13 pm

Hi , im curious why the red brake light in the tempature gauge and warning chime come on during a traction loss situation on my 98 .
it never happened on my 97 and its rather annoying , if i turn off the traction controll id doesnt happen ....
thanks

hmm looks like i posted in wrong section .... o well
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:55 pm

I'd have the parking brake checked out. That's a symptom of having the parking brake engaged while driving.

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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:06 pm

whom ever moved this ... thanks lol ....

yea i thought that too , but i cant figure it out
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:31 pm

and the level in the resov is high enough? maybe the fluid line that runs to the trac motor is cloged? can you see brake fluid in the little container down on the motor?

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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:41 pm

ill look ... the main resovoir is full .... never know it was that complicated a system , i just thought is was a quirk/trait that the 98's had that the 97's didnt .... you know how the average (62 year old )
buick driver might not be aware that hes loosing traction ...........
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:19 am

mine does the same thing every now and then
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:29 am

I've never had a light come on during a low-traction situation. I'd guess you are low on brake fluid... sometimes it's hard to see the true level through the side of the reservoir, have you checked with the cap off?
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:58 am

Mr Riviera - for your diagnosis

1) check brake fluid level pronto, and *also* check for leaks at wheel cylinders (lines and bleeder screws) and on brake lines especially where exposed to road grit and salt spray from tires. Other than obvious wetness, any accumulation of moist dirt may indicate a leak - you'll have to clean and check.

2) while parked, engage and disengage the praking brake as you usually do. Then (most likely with your toe) lift UP on the parking brake. If the pedal can be moved toward you, your pedal return spring has probably weakened with time and probably should be replaced.

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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:37 pm

e brake works correctly , res is full . its gotta be a t/c issue beacuse if i turn it off and loose traction it doesnt happen ....
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:32 pm

It could be a problem with your ABS head then. The TC uses the ABS unit to brake the slipping wheel. Have you tried a full-brake-pedal lock up stop? (Be Careful and Watch out for flying interior objects) If my theory is right, that should also cause your light to come on. Do it in an empty parking lot in case it causes you to lose control (ABS works for one wheel but another locking up could send you into a spin)
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:55 pm

abs works correctly too , weve had lots of snow this year ...
i just did another test car DOES NOT chime while going foreward or backwards with break on ... thats odd too. suppsed to chime then ??
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:14 pm

Try depressing parking brake, than release, but leave your toe on it so that it is barely dragging. You can drive the car with the ability to use the p-brake manually (like a hand brake). This is when the bell will come on. I think you have to be going a certain speed for a period of time.

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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:00 pm

As soon as the track control engage and the inj pulse slows if i persist to make it loose it's track (like on ice)the brake light shows(and ding)it stays on till i left throttle then it shut.(the level is ok and brakes new)i always think it was normal.
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:08 am

yes sag ... same here . yes to AA didnt chime in driveway but out on the road it chimed when i was at speed
im gonna try to hold my foot under the e brake and break it loose to see if that helps , was gonna do it today but it was 55 and dry . tomorrows gonna be like 30 + snowy so well see
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:15 pm

what AA was trying to get across, I think, is that there's a time delay and speed measurement here, before the bell comes on.

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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:15 pm

Problem solved .... sucked out the resovoir and refilled with fresh , all better
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:28 pm

So this points to low fluid level. I don't think the sensors can tell if the fluid is bad.

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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:30 pm

could have been an air buble on the sensor. i've had that happen before, but only after doing brake work on the car.

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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:38 pm

I just started having this problem today with my car under hard acceleration. I haven't checked my fluid level in the resivor yet but could if it's a little low and the fluid moves suddenly under hard acceleration could that set off the light in the dash and the bell. As soon as I let off the accelerator it stops.
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:49 pm

That sounds like the same problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Brake Light and Chime (ding-ding-ding)   Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:55 pm

Thanks, I'll check it out tomorrow when I'm putting in my new spark plugs.
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