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PostSubject: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:34 pm

The type of plug you use will depend on your level of modification. A good upgrade for a stock engine is to replace the OEM plugs with a type known as "cooler" than stock. A good copper spark plug is the Autolite 605 or 104. Autolites are very reasonable at about $10 for a set of 6, and can be found at most auto parts counters.

The idea behind cooler plugs is that they will dissipate heat away from the electrodes more quickly than standard plugs. Since excess heat in the combustion chamber is one of the chief causes of knock in the L67, running cooler plugs helps to lower the chances of it occurring.

Understand that a cooler plug does not have a "cooler spark". The reason a cooler plug stays cool is because it has a smaller insulator, so heat can more easily escape. The 605 is one range cooler than stock, the 104 is two ranges cooler, and the 103 is three ranges cooler than stock. The 605 plug is good for a stock engine and for drivers with conservative driving habits. The 104 is better for spirited driving, or for moderate engine modification (104s are probably the best plug for most members reading this FAQ). The 103 should only be installed further down the road as you increase boost significantly. Only cars running very high boost and/or used exclusively for racing should use 103 plugs.

The rule for choosing plugs according to INTENSE Racing is:

• Less than 6 lbs of boost: 1 range cooler (Autolite 605s)
• 6-12 lbs of boost: 2 ranges cooler (Autolite 104s)
• 12-18 lbs of boost: 3 ranges cooler (Autolite 103s)

The size of your SC pulley and the mods to your engine/exhaust will determine your level of boost and the plugs you should use. Using plugs that are too cool can result in plug fouling. This is a condition where a plug's electrodes become coated in soot/debris, preventing easy starting or even causing misfires. We have so far found zero instances of plug fouling, even using 104s with a completely stock engine. Since our engines make 6-8 PSI in stock form, either 605s or 104s will work. Lean toward the 104s if you plan to be in the throttle a lot.

A note about platinum/iridium plugs: some people use them with success, but they generally aren't considered the best performance plug for our supercharged engines, especially if you'll be doing any racing or frequent WOT activity. It's generally thought that copper plugs are the best performance plug for our engines because copper runs cooler and happens to be a lot less expensive. The chief advantage with platinum and iridium plugs is they will last a long time - perhaps 100k miles versus 50k miles for a set of copper plugs. But if performance is your primary goal, it makes sense to change out the plugs once every 1-2 years anyway, being that they are inexpensive and easy to replace. So, even if you only get 20-30k miles out of a set of copper plugs, it's nice to know that you always have a set of clean, fresh plugs making good spark. And although some say platinum/iridium plugs offer better fuel economy, it's probably a very slight improvement, if any, over a fresh copper plug. In fact, since copper plugs get replaced more frequently, there's a chance you'll see better efficiency with them because the electrodes will be cleaner and any damage will not go overlooked.

Although tempting, it is probably not worthwhile to upgrade to aftermarket plug wires. The OEM (AC/Delco/Delphi) wires have proven to be worthy performers. You should replace your wires at least by 100k miles, or a bit earlier if feasible. A new set through the dealership is $59.99, but they can be found for as little as $35 if you shop around.

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'98 SC Riviera • 238k miles • 298 HP/370 LB-FT • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.5 avg MPG


3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco F/Rsway bars • ES links/bushings • GM strut brace • Enkei 18" EV5s • Dunlop DZ101 tires
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:09 am

kinda weird, but the first time i modded the riv, i ran a wai, dp, full exhaust, 3.25, and 1.5 range colder plugs (R42LTS). the second time, i ran a fwi, dp, full exhaust, 3.4, and powrtuned and a .5 range colder copper plug caused my car to run poorly, so i ran a .5 range hotter ngk iridium plug and it fixed the problem i was having.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:38 am

Looks like lots of variables in your set-up that made your situation unique. In my experience, 1/2 range changes don't make that big of a difference. If you go cooler, your engine should run the same, but the chance of fouling increases.

The fact that you changed plugs period may have fixed your problem. Also, gap and plug material could make a difference, although copper has given the best results for most.

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- John R. White, Boston Globe

"I think that in any racing engine, the nearer you are to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be."
- Keith Duckworth, Cosworth Engineering

'98 SC Riviera • 238k miles • 298 HP/370 LB-FT • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.5 avg MPG


3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco F/Rsway bars • ES links/bushings • GM strut brace • Enkei 18" EV5s • Dunlop DZ101 tires
F-body calipers • EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • slotted discs • ATE superblue fluid • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:03 pm

the stock range platinum plugs i replaced w/ the coppers caused it to act the same way. i was totally perplexed (sp.?). the exhaust would kinda pop like it was backfiring. i did run a smaller gap though. idk, it was weird. i, too, like to use copper plugs instead of Ir/Pt. a local clubgp memeber suggested i try those plugs and they worked, so i was happy.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:07 pm

I did not know of any concerns with using lower heat range plugs. I put in 2 range colder 104s in mine because I knew eventually I would anyway.

What are the downsides to using cooler plugs?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:06 am

Plug fouling is the only real concern. Over time the electrodes may blacken and cause a hard start or misfire.

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- John R. White, Boston Globe

"I think that in any racing engine, the nearer you are to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be."
- Keith Duckworth, Cosworth Engineering

'98 SC Riviera • 238k miles • 298 HP/370 LB-FT • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.5 avg MPG


3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco F/Rsway bars • ES links/bushings • GM strut brace • Enkei 18" EV5s • Dunlop DZ101 tires
F-body calipers • EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • slotted discs • ATE superblue fluid • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:22 am

its better to use a tuner to get rid of kr instead of trying to mask the problem w/ colder plugs. its best to run a hotter plug (in releation) cause they burn fuel better.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:32 pm

I remember in the original FAQ for the Riv it said it is good that the plugs require frequent changes. Guess that is a positive to some!

To me it is, I just have to remember all of my replacement schedules...
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:34 pm

i went to the partstore tonight and went to get some auto lite 104. they told me they are the same thing as the 605's are they full of it or what? what ones shouls i get for my car and do i have to gap them or are they pre-gaped.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:45 pm

I think they are pre gapped, not sure tho. They are different hence the different number. They are one heat range cooler than 605s and two ranges cooler than stock.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:42 am

quote from top of thread:

• Less than 6 lbs of boost: 1 range cooler (Autolite 605s)
• 6-12 lbs of boost: 2 ranges cooler (Autolite 104s)
• 12-18 lbs of boost: 3 ranges cooler (Autolite 103s)


104s and 605s are not the same, but both can work in your application. A lot depends on your driving style. If you're not aggressive, 605s are better. If you're hitting WOT a lot, 104s will work fine. The only danger of going too cool is fouling of the electrodes.

As mentioned, gap to .058". Plugs are pre-gapped, but they are not the correct value, and if a box gets dropped or shifted during shipment... never trust a pre-gapped plug.

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- John R. White, Boston Globe

"I think that in any racing engine, the nearer you are to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be."
- Keith Duckworth, Cosworth Engineering

'98 SC Riviera • 238k miles • 298 HP/370 LB-FT • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.5 avg MPG


3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco F/Rsway bars • ES links/bushings • GM strut brace • Enkei 18" EV5s • Dunlop DZ101 tires
F-body calipers • EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • slotted discs • ATE superblue fluid • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch
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PostSubject: plugs - how cold do i want   Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:53 pm

Basically my only plans in terms of modification right now is a 3.4 pulley & intake plumbing (and 180 tstat & higher flow mufflers in case it makes a real difference) and i will pretty much always be using 91-93 oct gas just depending on what station i go to. my question is do i want to use 605 or 104 plugs?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:04 pm

with the 3.4 you will need 104 plugs. you could run the 605's until you get the 3.4" pulley on.
IF you pull the 104's out and they look burnt then you may want to go to 103's.
the only draw back to running too cold of a plug would be fouling the plug. and i've never foulded them. go WOT every once in awhile to keep them clean and your good. also the autolites are the best and also the cheapest so if they do happen to go bad or foul then a new set is only like $7

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:17 pm

thanks much. im assuming 103 is the next colder after 104. just out of curiosity, what kinda plugs do people use who are running like 3inch pulleys and stuff
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Which Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires should I use?   Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:21 pm

yes 103 is 3 ranges colder than stock. 103 is about the coldest people go b/c if your running a 3" or 2.9" pulley then you have tuning done and a range colder plug will not do much to prevent detonation. colder plugs are only part of what we do to prevent KR wink

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