I put this on the Powertuner board but got no help.
There is a table modifier timing program available which I have used. But being familiar with it doesnt matter in relation to this question.

I put in a scan that really only included idling/cruising and the program only changes the timing of those setting. But it simply raises every cell used in the scan 2 degrees (by default).
When I do this, the cells in the higher mg/cyl settings, the timing numbers are lower. But the timing modifer still raises those cells timing by 2* and the powertuner highlights the cells since the changes exceed 10%. IS THIS OKAY?

I understand the damage of raising the MAF numbers more than a few %, but still unsure about timing.

Another thing, I have no EGR so my engine temps tend to stay cooler than normal. How does this effect settings??

I'm far from an expert as I haven't jumped in and done what I'll call the necessary reading yet. As we all know, being able to tune a car shows a relationship between effort put into learning and working with the car.

Depending if you are getting knock at the higher cylinder airmass would be the biggest determination for me if you should allow 2* to be added up there. Personally...I'd make small changes in only certain areas and come back for the top fo the rpm range.

Before you start tuning your timing table, give this a try - they recommend downloading the .bin from an '05 GTP and taking it's GFS table, as it's a bit more agressive overall and a better starting place for your tune.

-Derek

Aaron is correct. You can't use another cars complete bin, but you can use a particular table from that bin. If you compare the two timing tables in an excel graph, for instance, you'll find the '05 GTP GFS spark table is a smoother table, and a little more agressive than your Riv's GFS spark table. Just import the one table before you start tuning.

You should tune for fuel before timing, IMHO.

Okay, then you are ready to start playing with timing. Start with the '05 GTP GFS table though... and go from there.

I'm really not comfortable with the way the timing table is set up. The last advanced system I worked on, the timing table was two-dimensional, MAP vs RPM, it made a lot of sense and was easy to follow. This one I'm not so sure about.

The tuning thingy program seems to do a good job overall, but I still don't really know what it's changing.

I am currently running the 05 GTP timing tables. Be careful beacause your max timing at WOT will go from 15* to 21* . I had to make some adjustments. I am currently running 19* with KR only at shifts with my 3.4 pulley.

hmm, mine didn't go that high. I only hit 14-15 at WOT.

Hmm! I have to admitt adding those tables really did bring a smile to my face.

I noticed the engine sound a little diffrent.
Idle spark advanced went up +10*
noticed a little more pep leaving the light.

Took me a while to fine tune to a point where I was comfortable about it but I think it is worth it.

can you send me that 05 GTP file for the timing table?