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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Fri May 22, 2015 4:25 pm

No cash for the front coil overs eh?

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Fri May 22, 2015 4:34 pm

Karma wrote:
No cash for the front coil overs eh?

If you want to fund me a pair of springs for R&D I'll gladly take it lmao
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Fri May 22, 2015 6:15 pm

My springs will be up for grabs once I bag my Riv.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Fri May 22, 2015 9:11 pm

charlieRobinson wrote:
My springs will be up for grabs once I bag my Riv.

But I have dibs tho
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Fri May 22, 2015 9:49 pm

Sir Psycho Sexy wrote:

charlieRobinson wrote:
My springs will be up for grabs once I bag my Riv.


But I have dibs tho

I think I'm going for a set of SSC springs anyways razz
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Sat May 23, 2015 12:40 am

Sir Psycho Sexy wrote:

charlieRobinson wrote:
My springs will be up for grabs once I bag my Riv.


But I have dibs tho

Shhh... they don't know that..
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:49 am

hey guys was messing around on rockauto at work came across something. the moog spring rockauto offers as a replacement for our cars is MOOG 60230

info it lists
Bar Diameter - Inches 0.60
End Type 1 Pig Tail
End Type 2 Pig Tail
Free Height - Inches 14.50
ID - Inches 5.65
Installation Height - Inches 7.50
Load - lbs 1121.00
Spring Rate - lbs per inch 160.00
Spring Type Constant Rate


and here's moog 60232

Bar Diameter - Inches 0.60
End Type 1 Pig Tail
End Type 2 Pig Tail
Free Height - Inches 13.77
ID - Inches 5.65
Installation Height - Inches 7.50
Load - lbs 1004.00
Spring Rate - lbs per inch 160.00
Spring Type Constant Rate

would this possibly drop the car just a little ?

im re-doing my front suspension slowly piecing stuff together
wouldn't mind giving these a shot if some of the suspension masters give me a thumbs up !
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:18 am

It's possible that they would work, but if you really want to experiment grab a set of Grand Prix springs (W-Body Store looked to have the best ones for our application, followed by SSC). I was going to do it here within a month or two but if somebody else can confirm they work I'll make it happen ASAP.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:03 pm

Yeah I do like the idea of dropping the car a lot but there isn't really a way of dropping the back other than leaving the air struts with no air in them.. not a good idea for the longevity of the struts.

I figured if i can get the car a bit lower in the front then i can adjust the back accordingly so atleast they will have a small amount of air in them

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:50 pm

GP Springs on my junk 98+ strut. Look good to me, how about you guys?



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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:54 pm

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GP Springs on my junk 98+ strut. Look good to me, how about you guys?


Son, you're a gosh dang pioneer. Are you installing for test drive?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:04 pm

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Son, you're a gosh dang pioneer. Are you installing for test drive?

As long as nobody sees any issues (and as long as I don't run into any) I'm installing them permanently.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:45 pm

The only thing I would be skeptical about is the difference in weight between the Grand Prix and the Riviera. But, with the 300+ pound difference, I almost wonder if that would lend these springs to be perfect for lowering.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:09 pm

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The only thing I would be skeptical about is the difference in weight between the Grand Prix and the Riviera. But, with the 300+ pound difference, I almost wonder if that would lend these springs to be perfect for lowering.

If you look at the GXP it weighs close to the Riv, plus it's really front heavy so it SHOULD balance out.........
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:59 am

Official test/install date is Friday night and/or Saturday.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:24 am

Real quick question......

So the front springs fit in the strut. So what. What are you gonna do about rear springs? GP's have struts. Rivs do not. What good is a set of GP springs if you cannot use them all?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:46 am

Abaddon wrote:
Real quick question......

So the front springs fit in the strut. So what. What are you gonna do about rear springs? GP's have struts. Rivs do not. What good is a set of GP springs if you cannot use them all?

Look at my sig and this thread bonk

http://rivperformance.editboard.com/t7854p135-custom-adjustable-front-coilovers-for-all-years-fabrication-required?highlight=coilovers
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:55 am

I know. However, for the sake of EVERYONE looking for different spring combos and lowering options, front GP springs are useless. No need for people to get the wrong idea and just start buying stuff that won't work.

That is all yawn

EDIT: Modifications specific to your own car, and not for everyone else, should be posted in your own thread, NOT in the FAQ section. People imply things when they read this stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:10 pm

Abaddon wrote:
Modifications specific to your own car, and not for everyone else, should be posted in your own thread, NOT in the FAQ section. People imply things when they read this stuff.


Sorry... Just figured it should go in the lowering springs thread since some people might like a slight rake to their car, raise/lower the rear with the air shocks, find something that works on the Lucerne and adapt it or go completely custom.... cry


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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:26 pm





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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:16 pm

Looks good! Hows it ride?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:26 pm

charlieRobinson wrote:
Looks good! Hows it ride?

Beautifully. It handles amazingly, you can just feel the whole car rotate where you want it to. Ride is a bit firmer but less bouncy. More comfortable because of that IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Aftermarket Lowering Springs   Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:50 pm

Figured I would post an update after a few months of use. The ride definitely got firmer as the springs settled it. It's not horrible, comparable to maybe a G35 or Camaro or something. There is a little bit of vibration whenever you accelerate at a medium pace due to the axle geometry not being perfect, but if you take it slow or really hard there are no vibrations. Car handles really well, can keep up with my friends MR2 through the larger and faster turns but through the slow tight turns it just can't compete. No rubbing issues or any other issues so far.
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