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PostSubject: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:33 pm

OK, this is a warning for folks who might have a slightly tuned PCM and then plan to tune using HPTUNER.

Apparently, some DHP altered bin files cannot be read by HPTUNER. Either a bad stroke of luck or some sort of write protection, these cannot be properly read and saved.

I am waiting for some help from HPtuners, but I dont think there is an easy fix. Grand Prix users have been advised to get their PCM reflashed by a tech2 or to just find a stock file and write the PCM. Finding a stock file is easy for a GP because there are a lot of users. I might be out of luck.

Anyway if anyone knows of a 97 Riv ower who uses HPtuners, I really really would like to get my hands on a stock *.hpt file. It looks like boattailBob might be able to help. Hopefully I can get ahold of him... help

Anyone know of a Tech2 owner in IL who can reflash my pcm? Worst case I head to the dealer... sick sick
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:49 pm

I can get you one as soon as I get my software...should be in 2-3 days and mine is untouched as of yet so I think you're in luck. I'll let you know asap
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:50 pm

I should be able to email you one tomorrow
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:18 am

Aww man you guys rock! I was dreading a trip to the dealer.

I bet the dealer would charge me 150 bucks to tell me that the PCM was fine and didnt need a reflash....
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:29 pm

I'm assuming your problem comes from doing a full read from the PCM, right? Have you tried just importing your last .bin file to HPT? It's supposed to be able...

I did save the .bin from my '98 before I made any changes.

Good luck, HPT is on my list for this summer so let us know what you needed to do! I sure don't want to re-VE tune frown
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:54 pm

urbsnspices- did you get the orig '97 file I sent to you this morning?
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:07 pm

Toss me an email..

I've got a 97 riv stock file.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:12 pm

deekster_caddy wrote:
I'm assuming your problem comes from doing a full read from the PCM, right? Have you tried just importing your last .bin file to HPT? It's supposed to be able...

I did save the .bin from my '98 before I made any changes.

My PCM was edited by the guy who started DHP. This a number of years ago, long before there were any personal tuners available. Who knows if he saved my stock bin. This was a custom quickie scan and tune in his driveway. Very minor things like shift points and idle, ect.

So yeah, rule number one is to save your stock tune. I just never had that chance...
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:51 pm

UPS guy didn't come today unfortunately, so I don't have that file for you but it looks like you may be covered. I will let you know when it arrives if you still need the stock file then.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:07 am

urbsnspices wrote:
deekster_caddy wrote:
I'm assuming your problem comes from doing a full read from the PCM, right? Have you tried just importing your last .bin file to HPT? It's supposed to be able...

I did save the .bin from my '98 before I made any changes.

My PCM was edited by the guy who started DHP. This a number of years ago, long before there were any personal tuners available. Who knows if he saved my stock bin. This was a custom quickie scan and tune in his driveway. Very minor things like shift points and idle, ect.

So yeah, rule number one is to save your stock tune. I just never had that chance...

Oh, you've got one from the days when PCMs were 'locked'. These can be read/write using PowerTuner only, but they can also be unlocked by a powertuner. (supposedly)
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:10 am

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Oh, you've got one from the days when PCMs were 'locked'. These can be read/write using PowerTuner only, but they can also be unlocked by a powertuner. (supposedly)

From what I read over on the Hptuner forum: You can do a full write of a stock bin. Either using an HPtuner or using a tech2 to reflash the pcm back to stock.

I am sort of irritated that there was no warning or instructions how to overcome my previous tune. I sure hope it is as simple as writing a stock bin.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:33 am

AFAIK the only thing DHP did special was the trans shift tables anyway. You shouldn't lose too much. It's not so hard to tune... just takes time. If you want I'll send you my unlocked bin from my '98, if you can import it into HPT you can certainly look it over.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:46 am

DHP's 1.5 BIN made changes to lots of things, including timing, fuel, and TM.

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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:38 pm

AA wrote:
DHP's 1.5 BIN made changes to lots of things, including timing, fuel, and TM.

This was a "driveway" custom tune, I think he did my shift points, raised idle, egr delete, happy knob and misfire code delete. Im not too worried about losing the old tune. I think I traded him some antennas for it.

I have been messing around with my wifes car and I cant wait to start tuning the Riv. Right now it is running kr free with a 3.4 and nearly no timing. I cant wait to unleash the GenV, with some boost and timing. pimp
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:23 pm

I looked.. got a 98 stock bin.

Should be able to get the cable back this weekend and get the 97 from the pcm olds is going to put in his car.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:34 pm

I got the 97 file for you urbsnspices. sending.....
The software is awesome. Ive scanned and have some work to do and still need to learn how to interpret all this, but the interface is awesome and easy to use.
Cant wait to really start getting into it.
Anyone else who would like the '97 file pm me.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:11 am

I got my cable back and also got the file pulled last night.

Also have many Bonne, GTP and other Buick files as well as some injectors etc in tables from a buddy.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:09 pm

BoattailBob wrote:
I got the 97 file for you urbsnspices. sending.....
The software is awesome. Ive scanned and have some work to do and still need to learn how to interpret all this, but the interface is awesome and easy to use.
Cant wait to really start getting into it.
Anyone else who would like the '97 file pm me.

Yeah I got the file, I will try opening it tonight. I was a little surprised how small it is. The file for my wife's malibuSS was 3-4 times as large. I guess that is the difference between a 97 and 2007. But yeah, the interface is fantastic. From what I understand, the interface has come a looong way. I really didnt want to have to figure out an interface while I was learning to tune.
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PostSubject: HPTuner   Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:23 pm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Tuners-VCM-Suite-V-1-0-/201186603248?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item2ed7a7f0f0&vxp=mtr

Found this guy...

Would this work on the Riv or no? The interwebz haven't yielded satisfactory results. Thanks!

Edit: Thanks for the merge Aaron!


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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:41 pm

97+ Rivis are good for it.
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PostSubject: temp   Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:44 pm

matt270avian wrote:
97+ Rivis are good for it.

100% for sure? I'm about to pull the trigger.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:08 pm

http://www.hptuners.com/products/vcmsuite_vehicles.php
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PostSubject: Re: HELP Riv users of HPTUERS! -->Stock 97 Riviera file!!   Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:10 pm

Sweet, thanks!
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