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PostSubject: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:10 am

Ok so i dont kno too much about nitrous. I do know that too much will cause detonation and i was thinking just a little 30-50 HP shot I dont kno but i found a whole kit herehttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-Sneeky-Pete-Hidden-DRY-Carbureted-Nitrous-Kit-05029_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33740QQihZ004QQitemZ140088016655QQrdZ1

please let me kno if this will work THANKS help help help help help


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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:20 am

thought you were selling the riv?? scratch now you want to mod it?

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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:22 am

YAH BUT i need some help so i can smoke that SRT-4 man
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:55 pm

When did you do the carb mod?
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:13 pm

Wha?? Rivs don't come with carb from factory??...

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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:33 pm

AA wrote:
Wha?? Rivs don't come with carb from factory??...
what are u guys talking about my plan was to just put the jet in the intake tube !!!!!!! but DUHHH i dont have a carb...
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:09 pm

I'm no expert on N2O, but I've read that jetting anything upstream of the SC rotors is bad for the coating on the blades. Maybe better to shoot after the blower.

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3.4" pulley AL104 plugs 180 t-stat FWI w/K&N 1.9:1 rockers OR pushrods LS6 valve springs SLP headers ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts MaxAir shocks Addco sway bars UMI bushings GM STB Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus SS lines Brembo slotted discs DHP tuned Aeroforce Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:26 pm

Didn't I read somewhere where one of the guys from another board added N2O to his Riv? How did that work for him? (or did I just dream this in a drunken stupor...)
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:33 pm

John (camlifter) from SRTforums did it; so did Rob (RivMan) from this board. Both ran high 12s.

John sold his Riv. Not sure about Rob.

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3.4" pulley AL104 plugs 180 t-stat FWI w/K&N 1.9:1 rockers OR pushrods LS6 valve springs SLP headers ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts MaxAir shocks Addco sway bars UMI bushings GM STB Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus SS lines Brembo slotted discs DHP tuned Aeroforce Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:40 pm

hmmm this sounds tight!!!!!!! i really think its the best bang for the buck!!!! and i WILL NOT jet it after the blower because thats called directport injection and u usually have to tap into the block (i think) but yes i have been looking for info but if u see something let me kno help
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:42 pm

I would assume it's not the ideal situation to put N2O on a 100K+ mi vehicle. It would make me a lil nervous anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:44 pm

i kno i also thought about that but from what i have read just a little shot 35 or 50 shot of nitrous really shouldnt be too bad !!!! so i may try this !!!!! I dunno tho
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:32 pm

jax95riv wrote:
I would assume it's not the ideal situation to put N2O on a 100K+ mi vehicle. It would make me a lil nervous anyway.

hmm the thing that stinks bout this is that it CAN HURT TO TRY
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:46 pm

quote: "i really think its the best bang for the buck!!!!"

This is a proven fact. There is no cheaper way to build power than N2O. And it's safe if a small shot is installed/used correctly. Actually, N2O is a knock fighter, which is good. But...

Because it's so affordable, many of the folks who use it are often the same ones who like to cut corners... hoping to get something for nothing. It doesn't work like that.

When you ram lots of cold, dense oxygen into your cylinders, you'd better find a way to get lots of fuel in there too, else chunks of piston might fly out your tailpipe. N2O doesn't burn on it's own. It's an oxidizer, so if your fuel system can't keep up, kiss your motor goodbye. This is why N2O got a bad rep as being "dangerous" for your engine. If you make a mistake, or your fuel delivery is compromised, the damage can be catastrophic because it happens so fast.

Talk to Rivman. I'm sure he can steer you in the right direction. Have someone install it who knows how to tune a SC engine. Good luck!

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3.4" pulley AL104 plugs 180 t-stat FWI w/K&N 1.9:1 rockers OR pushrods LS6 valve springs SLP headers ZZP fuel rails
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EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus SS lines Brembo slotted discs DHP tuned Aeroforce Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:49 pm

hmmm so i'm suprised i cant answer this question but is there any way to put more fuel to the engine without a tuner???
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:59 pm

There is a way to manipulate the MAFF signal to demand more fuel using what's called an AFC (air/fuel calibrator). How you would use it with N2O I'm not sure. I imagine the makers of nitrous kits have found a way to do this. It's a key part of using the stuff. The thing is, blown motors need LOTS MORE fuel to keep up.

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3.4" pulley AL104 plugs 180 t-stat FWI w/K&N 1.9:1 rockers OR pushrods LS6 valve springs SLP headers ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts MaxAir shocks Addco sway bars UMI bushings GM STB Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus SS lines Brembo slotted discs DHP tuned Aeroforce Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:01 pm

hmm i have one of those cheap little engine chip things off eby for 10 dollars is this it???? it plugs into the IAT sensor
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:02 pm

No, that's not an AFC... that's a $.25 resistor that you paid $10 for.

This is and AFC: http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=172&catid=107http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=172&catid=107

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'98 SC Riviera 268k miles 298 HP/370 TQ 0-60: 5.79s ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 4087 lb 20.1 avg MPG Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley AL104 plugs 180 t-stat FWI w/K&N 1.9:1 rockers OR pushrods LS6 valve springs SLP headers ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts MaxAir shocks Addco sway bars UMI bushings GM STB Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus SS lines Brembo slotted discs DHP tuned Aeroforce Hidden Hitch


'05 GTO 49k miles 0-60: 4.8s 16.9 avg MPG Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:04 pm

hahhahahahaha whats that do for me actually should i plug my REAL sensor back in??
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:09 pm

According to ZZ Performance:

"An air temp module is simply a fancy packaged resistor made for people who don't know any better. Companies like SLP offer this for ~$25 and many are lured into purchase by its low price and ease of install. It tricks your PCM into thinking it's cold outside and therefore "optimizes timing". In reality it does little to nothing and cannot change commanded timing by more than 1 degree (and that's on a hot day where you probably can't use the extra 1 degree of timing anyway). Save your money and don't buy it. If your curiosity gets the best of you, buy an 8k resistor from Radio shack and save $24.50"

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3.4" pulley AL104 plugs 180 t-stat FWI w/K&N 1.9:1 rockers OR pushrods LS6 valve springs SLP headers ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts MaxAir shocks Addco sway bars UMI bushings GM STB Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus SS lines Brembo slotted discs DHP tuned Aeroforce Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:11 pm

OH hahhahahahha i actually got refunded according to my dad he contacted them and he only had to pay $2 shipping idk it would probably be sensing cooler if i plugged it back in rite because i have it hanging by my transmission kinda wow
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:16 pm

Yeah, you should probably finish that intake pretty soon, lol. Sorry, just pickin' on ya. wink

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3.4" pulley AL104 plugs 180 t-stat FWI w/K&N 1.9:1 rockers OR pushrods LS6 valve springs SLP headers ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts MaxAir shocks Addco sway bars UMI bushings GM STB Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus SS lines Brembo slotted discs DHP tuned Aeroforce Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:17 pm

AA wrote:
Yeah, you should probably finish that intake pretty soon, lol. Sorry, just pickin' on ya. wink

my fenderwell intake is complete i just want to wait till spring to istall it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i
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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:24 pm

A/F ratio calibrator.

you should spray wet N2O not Dry. i dont know much about nawzz but you will probably need to tune the fuel since the A/F is a set-it and leave-it tuner. so you would run extreamly rich whenever you were not spraying.

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PostSubject: Re: NOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS   Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:29 pm

okay i wil research more
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