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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:32 pm

Well, I certainly don't have an extra $45 to flush down the toilet. I know Morad's a great guy, and he runs an excellent business. I fucking love their new shop, and they accommodated me for some extra work I needed done (coupler replacement, etc.).

When all is said and done, though, he's doing just fine for himself. He just hired a bunch of new (very competent) guys. The place looks like a million bucks. He doesn't need any extra charity for you, or anyone else.

He's also looking into starting up his own full-time towing service.
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:48 pm

Do you have something against Ed running a profitable business? I also sent mine to Ed, for whatever it was, 45 or 50 bucks.

BTW, no shop owes it to you to tell you that you can recyle the cat yourself. You can also keep and resell your old tires if you want to, if they have some tread left.
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:03 am

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I know Morad's a great guy, and he runs an excellent business. I fucking love their new shop, and they accommodated me for some extra work I needed done (coupler replacement, etc.).

Did you miss this? Or do I need to highlight the sections in which I gave much PRAISE to his shop?

Like I said, the guy's doing well for himself, and it's because not only is he a great mechanic, but also a great business man. Shit, I really hope I end up as successful as he has become. His new shop is about 4 times the size of his old one, and in a better location.

I'm just saying that he doesn't need any of our extra help or charity. Nor is he the shop who did work for me and "forget" to mention that I'm giving them an extra $50 pop in their paycheck.

Back when this happened, I was only 17 and worth about 7 bucks an hour. That was a full day's pay, and I was still going to school, so I only worked part time when I could. In all honesty, I could have used the money. I was trying to mod my Regal while holding a shit job, and I needed every penny.

Maybe I'm more mad at the fact that I was so damn naive, rather than blame them for not telling me it was worth money. I was 17 and I barely knew anything about cars, aside from I wanted one of those "supercharged GMs," which I got.

I was also pretty sure that the cats were worth more. I just found a post where somebody said that cats in good condition would fetch $80-120 - depending on the precious metal content, of course (some are worth next to nothing).

While I was at Morads new place, they let me browse around while one of the guys was changing out my coupler. I was looking at the scrap bins (which were huge, and were like 10 feet tall). I was like "wow, look at all this scrap aluminum!" and a guy overheard me, and said "Nah. The real money's in the bin over there. Catalytic converters."

The guy went out of his way to point out that they were worth money, and I think he should know, as he works there. He didn't say how much, but even if it's only $50, that's still worth it to most of us on these boards.

So, back to the original point of my posting. If anyone wants to make some money back on their supposed "junk" cat, then they should think again and make a little trip to the recycling center and stuff a $50 (maybe more?) in their pocket.

That's all I was trying to say.
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:10 pm

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Nobody's mentioned it yet, but make sure that if you get your cat replaced, KEEP IT. Take it to your local metal recyclers - it has platinum in it, and you'll get a decent chunk of change towards your next mod, gas, or whatever.

I had someone replace my cat and they kept it. Yeah, I wonder why. Assholes. The money that I would have gotten from turning it in would have paid for the labor that he did. Instead, he turned it in and got paid DOUBLE while I was in the dark about the whole situation.

Don't get screwed over. Keep your cat, even if it's a rusted hunk of junk. It's worth money.


I went to the exhaust shop about 2 weeks ago and the guy said he could put a straight pipe on or about $60, but i would have to remove the cat, if i didnt then the owner would keep the cat. Like I didnt know he was going to scrap the thing and make twice his money or something? They have that really bad in Detroit now. they get a reciprocating saw and go up to your car, jack up one side and slice off your converter. I saw it happen to a guy at the party store. Never heard a late 90s grand am so loud either. And since it only takes a few seconds, its quick easy cash. If i catch someone under my car doing it, im kicking the damn jack out from under it lol
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:08 pm

Yeah, people are even doing this at dealerships to NEW cars, because they get the most amount of money for them.
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:42 pm

Well by "gave" I meant he gave me a $45 credit on my next purchase.

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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:25 pm

Heh, that certainly changes things.

Morad is one of the best assets of the 3800 community. In another post, I mentioned how he's letting me buy the fiberglass hoodliner off the Riviera he just got in, when it's obviously worth more when sold with the hood. But nope, he's letting me buy it.
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:07 pm

Yeah the thieves are tearing the asscheeks off of people for converters. lol
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:36 pm

do anyone know where to look in the phonebook for a place to buy my old cat convertor? I could use a few bucks.
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:37 pm

i think that Ed Morad guy is the same guy on ebay who sells stuff for GM cars. the store is Morad Auto Parts or something like that
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:35 pm

KillaKeninaRiv wrote:
i think that Ed Morad guy is the same guy on ebay who sells stuff for GM cars. the store is Morad Auto Parts or something like that

Find him here: Morad Parts Company

or

Morad E-bay Store
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:37 pm

im running a pipe thru mine, 1995 FTW twisted
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PostSubject: cat converter delete?   Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:41 pm

sorry i seem to be asking a lot of questions lately... anyway recently the weld broke behind my cat converter and now i need to find someone to weld it back on. so i was thinking maybe this would be a good time to delete it completely, which i dont care about it being illegal i just dont want to fail an inspection because of it. having it on is probably just clogging up my exhaust pipes because its never been changed. i was wondering if any of u guys without cats failed an inspection for not having one or had other problems. thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:58 pm

Not a problem to ask questions, but sometimes will save time to use the search feature. Lots of answers in the Series II tech forum:

http://rivperformance.editboard.com/series-ii-engine-transmission-f4/removing-catalytic-convertor-t2712.htm

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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:55 pm

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im running a pipe thru mine, 1995 FTW twisted

i was going to check on the pipe for it today. if its possible im going to have my boy do it and ill just buy the pipe. what all do i need other than a length of pipe? and is it regular steel or a certain type of metal?
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:12 pm

thanks aaron, i will check that more often now
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:43 am

i recently took off my cat too and drove and put pipes in place with and it sonded really nice without it but appearntly when i WOT one of the pipes i clamped down blew off which you can definitley tell and hear when that happens. which i decided to have it welded by a shop but heres the problem no shop will be able to work on a car without the cat on due to the laws. so as i was thinking i could get a pipe welded in place of a cat (this is a small locally owned muffler shop) who would do it but would if something happend to the engine and i needed to get it worked on or my brakes which i proablly wouldnt be able to fix then im screwed. but if you know how to work on your engine go for it, it does sound really nice with it off which i really miss.
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PostSubject: catalytic converter delete?   Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:12 am

hi i found out that i have a hole in my converter which makes a nasty ass hoopty sound when i accelerate now. i was told i would either have to remove it and get a stright pipe or that i would have to buy a new converter, which i am trying to avoid like the plague. if i remove the cat, what type of metal should i use for a pipe? also, my SES light is on and i was wondering would removing it turn that sensor off. its a 1995 Riviera exhaust with a 1997 Series II motor
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:32 am

Use stainless steel pipe to replace the cat. You should find out if the SES is in fact because of the cat. If it is, you'll need to replace the rear O2 sensor with a dummy resistor to convince the PCM your cat is still there.

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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:38 am

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Use stainless steel pipe to replace the cat. You should find out if the SES is in fact because of the cat. If it is, you'll need to replace the rear O2 sensor with a dummy resistor to convince the PCM your cat is still there.

thanks alot. where can i find a dummy resistor? and hwo easy is it to install?
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:34 pm

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=834&catid=110

Looks very easy to install. After installing you will need to have the code deleted; it won't go away on it's own.

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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:17 pm

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After installing you will need to have the code deleted; it won't go away on it's own.

Mine went away on its own on my 1997.

The dummy is a very easy install and works just fine for me. I recommend that ZZP one - It's the smallest, cleanest one I've seen.
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:12 pm

Black smoke!

Mine's coming off this coming up week, zzp shorty came in, just gotta get it welded to a 3" straight pipe, then wait for my 3" to 2.5" reducer gets here..
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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:41 pm

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Mine went away on its own on my 1997.

I stand corrected. Good to know!

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PostSubject: Re: catalytic converter delete?   Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:34 pm

Could a clogged cat cause knock?
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