98 Riviera

hey, im Bob from new york. my dad ran into the back of my other car a little more than a year ago while we were on are way to go look at a v6 camaro rag top, and that is when i saw this 98 Riv. i bought in november 05. i love it. it is the best car i have had. I have a 2.5 inch flowmaster dual exhuast, fram airhog air filter,aftermarker head lights, hood scoops, and under glow. now this week im putting in a battery,timing chain,fog lights, strut tower brace, gates belts, akebono ceramic brake pads, power stop drilled/sloted rotors, KYB GR-2 struts, a air supercharger by tornado, and a 180 thermostat.

Welcome!

Post some pics in the showroom.

Welcome! Save your money and skip the Tornado.

Welcome! Save your money and skip the Tornado.

to late i already ordered it. what one are you talking a/b?

AA wrote:

Welcome! Save your money and skip the Tornado.

How many miles do you have on your car?

Wow, they call it an air supercharger?

Why do you need a new timing chain?

Let me know how the brakes work out for you here:

https://rivperformance.editboard.com/Series-II-3800-Supercharged-c2/Suspension-Handling-f6/Solid-v-Slotted-v-Drilled-Rotors-t355.htm

quote: "to late i already ordered it. what one are you talking a/b?"

Doesn't matter if call it a "Tornado", an "Turbinator" or whatever... putting something inside your air intake or exhaust will hurt performance. These products are known scams.

Not trying to rain on your parade, just wanting you to get the most out of your ride.

there are 112,000 mi on the Riv. i wanted to put a new timing chain on now just so i dont have to do it sometime later. the air s/c is comimg sometime this week ill try it and if i dont like it i got a few ppl i no will buy it,

If you haven't bought the timing chain yet, rollmaster is the way to go.

sounds good i wasnt going to get it till tue or wed ill look into it thanks

how does that work? "rollmaster"

Here it is. I plan to put one in this year (you want the single):

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=388&catid=104

what is the diff in a timing chain and that master?

helps to look at the web site b/f i ask a ?

Hey Robert,
Welcome to the family. Don't feel bad, I have a Tornado sitting on the shelf in my garage too. Live and learn my friend, dats the way we do it.

welcome. take a look around especialy at the FAQ, most Q's should be addressed somewhere but don't hesitate to ask. most of use have seen/heard it all and dont mind answering questions so long as it isnt alread covered elsewhere.
sell the "air s/c" ( ) and gut the air box, you will be much better off for performance,gas mileage and durability.
so where are you going to put the fog lihgts and did you get the caddy STB?

im going to put the fog lights under the bumper on ethier side of the lisince plate. and yes i got the caddy stb

robertwolf86 wrote:

im going to put the fog lights under the bumper on ethier side of the lisince plate. and yes i got the caddy stb

that's where i have mine. it seems like the only logical place to put them and they need to be pretty flat to fit in there. i wanted to put them more outward but i couldnt due to mounting and space issues

robertwolf86 wrote:

there are 112,000 mi on the Riv. i wanted to put a new timing chain on now just so i dont have to do it sometime later. the air s/c is comimg sometime this week ill try it and if i dont like it i got a few ppl i no will buy it,

If you havent put this in DON'T!!! I have read many website articles, heard and read many testimonials and saw a whole news segment on how bad these are and how they either have no effect and more often a worse effect on performance/air flow/gas mileage. Sell it on ebay.

But nice ride, and can't wait to hear about the mods.

NO 4 EVR wrote:

robertwolf86 wrote:

there are 112,000 mi on the Riv. i wanted to put a new timing chain on now just so i dont have to do it sometime later. the air s/c is comimg sometime this week ill try it and if i dont like it i got a few ppl i no will buy it,

If you havent put this in DON'T!!! I have read many website articles, heard and read many testimonials and saw a whole news segment on how bad these are and how they either have no effect and more often a worse effect on performance/air flow/gas mileage. Sell it on ebay.

But nice ride, and can't wait to hear about the mods.

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Yeah, but don't sell it to some unsuspecting sucker. try to return it to the place you got it. We need less of these things in the market, not more.

lol good idea

AA wrote:

Yeah, but don't sell it to some unsuspecting sucker. try to return it to the place you got it. We need less of these things in the market, not more.

I hate these things the only thing that worked was that tornado i tried it on my moms car and it worked OK the only reason i know it gave a little more HP is because my dad has a GTECH gadget that measures HP so the cavalier got MAYBE 1.5 HP out of the deal LOL

Keep in mind there a LOT of other things that add/reduce HP, such as air temp, humidity, gas, engine temp, KR, battery voltage, and with a GTech, even the road surface.

Unless you did a repeatable experiment with NO changed variables, I can't believe there is any benefit to using these things. Heck, I can take my car to a dyno tomorrow, then do absolutely nothing and retest in a week and see a 1.5HP gain,

AA wrote:

Keep in mind there a LOT of other things that add/reduce HP, such as air temp, humidity, gas, engine temp, KR, battery voltage, and with a GTech, even the road surface.

Unless you did a repeatable experiment with NO changed variables, I can't believe there is any benefit to using these things. Heck, I can take my car to a dyno tomorrow, then do absolutely nothing and retest in a week and see a 1.5HP gain,

hmmmmmmm someone knows there $h!† cus your right i based my PRE mod experiment like a week before so there was probably a temp change or something and have ever dynoes ur car??