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PostSubject: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 8:36 pm

hey, im Bob from new york. my dad ran into the back of my other car a little more than a year ago while we were on are way to go look at a v6 camaro rag top, and that is when i saw this 98 Riv. i bought in november 05. i love it. it is the best car i have had. I have a 2.5 inch flowmaster dual exhuast, fram airhog air filter,aftermarker head lights, hood scoops, and under glow. now this week im putting in a battery,timing chain,fog lights, strut tower brace, gates belts, akebono ceramic brake pads, power stop drilled/sloted rotors, KYB GR-2 struts, a air supercharger by tornado, and a 180 thermostat.
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 8:50 pm

Welcome!

Post some pics in the showroom.
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 8:59 pm

Welcome! Save your money and skip the Tornado. wink

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 9:45 pm

Welcome! Save your money and skip the Tornado.

to late i already ordered it. what one are you talking a/b?
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 9:48 pm

AA wrote:
Welcome! Save your money and skip the Tornado. wink

agree

How many miles do you have on your car?

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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 9:54 pm

Wow, they call it an air supercharger? rotf

Why do you need a new timing chain?

Let me know how the brakes work out for you here:

http://rivperformance.editboard.com/Series-II-3800-Supercharged-c2/Suspension-Handling-f6/Solid-v-Slotted-v-Drilled-Rotors-t355.htm
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 10:22 pm

quote: "to late i already ordered it. what one are you talking a/b?"

Doesn't matter if call it a "Tornado", an "Turbinator" or whatever... putting something inside your air intake or exhaust will hurt performance. These products are known scams.

Not trying to rain on your parade, just wanting you to get the most out of your ride. thumbsup

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 10:40 pm

there are 112,000 mi on the Riv. i wanted to put a new timing chain on now just so i dont have to do it sometime later. the air s/c is comimg sometime this week ill try it and if i dont like it i got a few ppl i no will buy it,
98 Riviera 6554b258_1816
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 10:42 pm

If you haven't bought the timing chain yet, rollmaster is the way to go.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 10:43 pm

sounds good i wasnt going to get it till tue or wed ill look into it thanks
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 10:44 pm

how does that work? "rollmaster"
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 10:52 pm

Here it is. I plan to put one in this year (you want the single):

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=388&catid=104

98 Riviera 388_1

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 11:09 pm

what is the diff in a timing chain and that master?
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptySun Mar 11, 2007 11:11 pm

helps to look at the web site b/f i ask a ?
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptyMon Mar 12, 2007 4:54 pm

Hey Robert,
Welcome to the family. Don't feel bad, I have a Tornado sitting on the shelf in my garage too. Live and learn my friend, dats the way we do it.happy
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptyMon Mar 12, 2007 7:13 pm

welcome. take a look around especialy at the FAQ, most Q's should be addressed somewhere but don't hesitate to ask. most of use have seen/heard it all and dont mind answering questions so long as it isnt alread covered elsewhere.
sell the "air s/c" (lmfao ) and gut the air box, you will be much better off for performance,gas mileage and durability.
so where are you going to put the fog lihgts scratch and did you get the caddy STB?

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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptyMon Mar 12, 2007 7:39 pm

im going to put the fog lights under the bumper on ethier side of the lisince plate. and yes i got the caddy stb
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptyMon Mar 12, 2007 8:13 pm

robertwolf86 wrote:
im going to put the fog lights under the bumper on ethier side of the lisince plate. and yes i got the caddy stb

that's where i have mine. it seems like the only logical place to put them and they need to be pretty flat to fit in there. i wanted to put them more outward but i couldnt due to mounting and space issues
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptyTue Mar 13, 2007 12:22 am

robertwolf86 wrote:
there are 112,000 mi on the Riv. i wanted to put a new timing chain on now just so i dont have to do it sometime later. the air s/c is comimg sometime this week ill try it and if i dont like it i got a few ppl i no will buy it,
98 Riviera 6554b258_1816

If you havent put this in DON'T!!! I have read many website articles, heard and read many testimonials and saw a whole news segment on how bad these are and how they either have no effect and more often a worse effect on performance/air flow/gas mileage. Sell it on ebay.

But nice ride, and can't wait to hear about the mods.
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptyTue Mar 13, 2007 12:28 am

NO 4 EVR wrote:
robertwolf86 wrote:
there are 112,000 mi on the Riv. i wanted to put a new timing chain on now just so i dont have to do it sometime later. the air s/c is comimg sometime this week ill try it and if i dont like it i got a few ppl i no will buy it,
98 Riviera 6554b258_1816

If you havent put this in DON'T!!! I have read many website articles, heard and read many testimonials and saw a whole news segment on how bad these are and how they either have no effect and more often a worse effect on performance/air flow/gas mileage. Sell it on ebay.

But nice ride, and can't wait to hear about the mods.

agree verbatim
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptyTue Mar 13, 2007 10:20 am

Yeah, but don't sell it to some unsuspecting sucker. try to return it to the place you got it. We need less of these things in the market, not more.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptyTue Mar 13, 2007 10:23 am

lol good idea
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptyTue Mar 13, 2007 10:23 am

AA wrote:
Yeah, but don't sell it to some unsuspecting sucker. try to return it to the place you got it. We need less of these things in the market, not more.

I hate these things the only thing that worked was that tornado i tried it on my moms car and it worked OK the only reason i know it gave a little more HP is because my dad has a GTECH gadget that measures HP so the cavalier got MAYBE 1.5 HP out of the deal LOL
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptyTue Mar 13, 2007 10:29 am

Keep in mind there a LOT of other things that add/reduce HP, such as air temp, humidity, gas, engine temp, KR, battery voltage, and with a GTech, even the road surface.

Unless you did a repeatable experiment with NO changed variables, I can't believe there is any benefit to using these things. Heck, I can take my car to a dyno tomorrow, then do absolutely nothing and retest in a week and see a 1.5HP gain,

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: 98 Riviera   98 Riviera EmptyTue Mar 13, 2007 10:42 am

AA wrote:
Keep in mind there a LOT of other things that add/reduce HP, such as air temp, humidity, gas, engine temp, KR, battery voltage, and with a GTech, even the road surface.

Unless you did a repeatable experiment with NO changed variables, I can't believe there is any benefit to using these things. Heck, I can take my car to a dyno tomorrow, then do absolutely nothing and retest in a week and see a 1.5HP gain,
hmmmmmmm someone knows there $h!† cus your right i based my PRE mod experiment like a week before so there was probably a temp change or something and have ever dynoes ur car??
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