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PostSubject: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:47 pm

Anybody else have this? My window rattles and makes a noise when I close the door with the window only partly up or down. I can't stand this noise but when I took the door panel off it was hard to see anything that could cause this.

Anyone know what could be the cause? Something I could tighten or replace?

I couldn't find the window "guide" either. I know it is probably worn out because when I had tint there was a streak where this thing was touching the window.

Any help on these two issues would be great!
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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:45 pm

I know someone on this board or RegalGS posted about this area. I just don't want to take the door panel off again w/o knowing what to look for. Something needs to be tightened or possibly replaced but I don't know what.

anyone?
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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:10 pm

my driver side window give a little squeal when going down, then again so don't most of the girls I know. pig j/k

I think my driver's window was replaced at one point. Besides the squealing thing when I close the door the window is poped out at the top. Everytime I leave the car I push it at the top gently and it snuggly fits into place. When I was cleaning the plastic pieces at the end of the seat rails on the driver's side I found a small shard of glass same greenish color as the Riv's tint. Hmmm.
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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:07 am

Troy - my window had the same problem as yours when I bought my Riviera - rattles, and mine stuck out ~ 1/4" from the B pillar. It ended up being a pair of broken window guides - not the felt ones along the top lip of the door like you speak of - but the heavy duty nylon-reinforced ones inside the door. (These are the ones that the window glass is bolted to.) One of my guides had the nylon tab broken off of it and the metal inner support was rattling against the window track. Even if the tab isn't gone, if the nylon breaks the inner support can start to bend away from the track and a rattle can develop. Check this out next time you have the door panel off.

This was not an easy fix, but it was a very annoying situation, so I ended up buying an entire driver's door and pulled the entire window track out of it as a replacement. The nylon pieces are integrated into the window track mechanism, so if they are broken, it's gonna cost you, but if you are handy with a drill and a rivet gun, the entire window track replacement procedure can be done in 2 hours time. Good Luck!
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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:27 am

Wow, sounds like a PITA. But thank you for the response! Maybe someday I'll tackle this...
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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:31 am

clazzicradiorepair wrote:
One of my guides had the nylon tab broken off of it and the metal inner support was rattling against the window track. Even if the tab isn't gone, if the nylon breaks the inner support can start to bend away from the track and a rattle can develop.
Do you know why, or have a suspicion why this happened? Nylon tab fatique. Pressure from the window against the seal when closed?
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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:25 am

I'm gonna venture a guess and say it's because a lot of people - including some of my passengers - close the door using the window because they are used to doors with an integrated B-pillar. Those little steel tabs on the window track just can't handle the force of the repeated closings, and eventually they bend enough to break the nylon. I take care to remind my regular passengers to close the door USING THE DOOR. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:45 pm

clazzicradiorepair wrote:
I'm gonna venture a guess and say it's because a lot of people - including some of my passengers - close the door using the window because they are used to doors with an integrated B-pillar. Those little steel tabs on the window track just can't handle the force of the repeated closings, and eventually they bend enough to break the nylon. I take care to remind my regular passengers to close the door USING THE DOOR. lol
Interesting. In the motorcycle world, and even for those obsolete motorcycles, and motorcycle parts, there always seems to be someone or a group who comes up with a solution and then offers it to the group. It would be neat to see that happen here. By solution I mean an actual part to fix the problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:00 pm

the situation Nicholas mentions sounds similar to the problems with the B-body window guides. If it is, in fact, just the stupid nylon guides (look like a small nylon doughnut, sometimes like a torpedo) that break, you can replace just that part. Bend out the stops at one end of the channel and tap out the old/broken guides and replace with new roller guides.
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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:12 pm

Jason wrote:
the situation Nicholas mentions sounds similar to the problems with the B-body window guides. If it is, in fact, just the stupid nylon guides (look like a small nylon doughnut, sometimes like a torpedo) that break, you can replace just that part. Bend out the stops at one end of the channel and tap out the old/broken guides and replace with new roller guides.
Any part numbers with pics?
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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:37 pm



I guess these are the parts Nick was referring to... If so I misunderstood his post and the guides I was referring to will be of no use.
#3:
Retainer, Glass (2/Side) R, L =25608746

#2
Insulator, Glass (2/Side) R, L 25631662

The rollers I was talking about which can cause window misalignment are in assembly 7 in the pic... they are not shown but would be located at the tips of the X in the pic, allowing the scissor motion which raises and lowers the glass. While I'm doing this, may as well quote the p/n for reference...
module assembly, glass L 16631573
module assembly, glass R 16631572
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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:32 am

I was actually referring to part #7 in the diagram, but not the rollers on the top end, rather the sliders on the bottom end of the scissors mechanism. (The part that bolts to the window via parts #2 and #3.)
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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:55 am

I have the issue described in this thread.

I realize its 10+ yrs old, but am wondering if Nicholas is still an active member and can provide the part# he is referring to.

Or maybe, another member has tackled this issue and knows what part# to replace.

I haven't looked at mine yet, but my symptoms match Nicholas's exactly

My DS window does not match the door seal mating surface when I close the door, it lays on top of the rubber drip edge underneath the chrome piece on roof.

see photos showing correct and incorrect window mating arrangement.





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PostSubject: Re: Window rattles when half way down when door closed   Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:45 pm

Check the FSM, you likely can adjust the window so it is properly aligned.
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