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PostSubject: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:59 pm

would really like to know if anyone has added or heard of adding a supercharger to a N/A car? Can it be done and what is needed besides a comuter to do this?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:06 pm

the L67 heads unless you wanna do something creative with the n/z heads and you'll need the dual belt harmonic balancer i think
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:09 pm

Yeah i kinda thought that all that with the belts had to be done, you said the heads have to be changed too ?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:11 pm

This might be a good place to start:

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=382&catid=109

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:12 pm

the other guys im sure know more about this than me, but i'm pretty sure the L67 heads are lower natural compression to accommodate the boost so theoretically, you could have problems using the heads you have on there because of excessive compression. but wait for the other guys to tell you b/c i didn't actually try this so i dont wanna steer you wrong
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:17 pm

Hey there Aaron thanx 4 da link sounds pretty involved wonder if its worth the hassle or if should just swap a whole moter or go V8 or jus add NOS?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:26 pm

swaping in a slightly used L67 would probably be cheaper and easier.

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:36 pm

yeah i think ur right on that one Mr.Riviera what r the odds of find one with wireing harness and comp.?
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:43 pm

odds are very good ed morad can get you one out of a riv wink wires, pcm, the whole works...but if its from a riv it will have some miles on it. he always has a few low ( 30k or so) mile GTP engine lying around. check his ebay store or email him for a quote. here is one with almost eveything.

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:51 pm

You should go visit the shop, give him a call at 216-798-6902.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:53 pm

Hey thanx everyone for ideas on this topc. I guess its sumin 4 me to think about. At this point i guess its a little more involved than i thought and a little more costly too. Maybe i will jus look at another
IROZ-Z to have as a tot and jus cruise the Rivi slow hence the name glsloriv.
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:55 pm

you could always pick up another 96+ riv wink may even find one cheaper than a engine frown kinda sad when you think about our depreciation level.

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:27 am

Damn I could'nt imagine my rivi not supercharged...........
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:47 am

damn i couldnt imagine my rivi with a series 1.....



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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:48 am

frown.............
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:49 am

Ouch, my pride frown
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:52 am

the s/c only give 20hp(205-225 IIRC) on the series 1 engine, but it adds alot of weight. im sure the N/A runs pretty well. and if it makes you feel better doughboy, you have more low end torque with the 95', only its much more difficult to mod.

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:54 am

lol.....my name isn't gary lol
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:56 am

oops, i just woke up bonk
sorry, i just saw gary and didnt see location.

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:59 am

lol......
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:03 am

quote: "Damn I could'nt imagine my rivi not supercharged..........."

The '95 N/A Rivs aren't really much slower than the SC version (Series I) from '95. The 20 hp difference is significant, but not huge. I can remember reading a review where the driver could barely tell the difference between the two. Buick fixed that problem beginning in '96. To put into perspective, a Series II supercharged Riv ('96-up) makes 20 hp more than a '95 with just the addition of a CAI tube.

With a 3.4" pulley and a few supporting mods, the Series II supercharged makes about 40 hp more than a Series I. Kinda makes you want to mod that thing, doesn't it?

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:55 pm

Ya'll wanna know sumin ? My rivi is a series 2 engine i wonder if i got the year wrong for sum reason !!!
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:00 pm

All the N/A 3800s in '95-'97 Rivs are Series II. It's the supercharged version that's a Series I. They're totally different engines... had me confused for the longest time, too.

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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:02 pm

ohhhhhh !!!!!! O.K. got ya!! wow, yeah that was a little confusing ,i had ben wondering bout that!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: FAQ: Adding Supercharger to NA 3800 V-6?   Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:04 pm

does anyone know what a slightly modded N/A Rivi runs in a quarter mile ?
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