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PostSubject: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyMon Apr 06, 2009 10:13 pm

i was just wondering if upgrading the coil to a high performance coil with some new plugs would gain anything. maybe mpg or ever hp gain.
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyMon Apr 06, 2009 10:32 pm

never really heard of a "high performance" coil...
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyMon Apr 06, 2009 10:52 pm

msd ignition coils are "supposed" to be a performance option. with that said, dont waste your money. lots of 10 second L67's on stock coils and wires. definitely not a weak point in our motors.
i'm sure there are some motors that gain a little power from larger/better wires and coil packs, but i would be very surprised if you got any gains from them on our cars.

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AMG C400 White on black -daily
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyMon Apr 06, 2009 11:04 pm

The stock L67 coils have been proven to be more than powerful enough for even heavily modified motors. If yours are in good working condition keep em!
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyMon Apr 06, 2009 11:34 pm

I've heard it time and time again, on here and on RegalGS.org - the ruling is in, stick with the stock ones. I've even read threads where the person's coil packs/wires failed and they needed to replace them, and it was recommended that they replace them with stock parts instead of aftermarket.
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyMon Apr 06, 2009 11:35 pm

I've paid extra for "premium" spark plugs before, and have never noticed any difference worth the money.
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyTue Apr 07, 2009 8:35 am

Original, stock coils on my car at 180k miles, if that says anything.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyTue Apr 07, 2009 8:54 am

my original stock, 227k.
Ive never been big on looks under the hood and i could care less about RICE. But, when I open my hood now...
upgrade coils DSC01115 yay
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyTue Apr 07, 2009 9:21 am

Chris, how is that original stock 227k?

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyTue Apr 07, 2009 9:34 am

my bad, was stock before change
I'm at 228k now
jus wanted t show what "upgraded" looked like
for the record- it made a little difference.
not worth the $ spent- as i am not big on looks
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyTue Apr 07, 2009 9:51 am

curious riv wrote:

upgrade coils DSC01115 yay


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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyTue Apr 07, 2009 11:32 am

for a lot less money you can buy a can of red paint and spray the coils covers red happy.

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1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyTue Apr 07, 2009 12:13 pm

Chris, just curious, was there anything wrong with your OEM coils at 227K?

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyTue Apr 07, 2009 1:01 pm

Mr.Riviera wrote:
for a lot less money you can buy a can of red paint and spray the coils covers red happy.

upgrade coils Rice-strained2
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyTue Apr 07, 2009 1:26 pm

AA wrote:
Chris, just curious, was there anything wrong with your OEM coils at 227K?
Na, they were fine.
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyTue Apr 07, 2009 2:07 pm

curious riv wrote:

for the record- it made a little difference....

Measured how?
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyTue Apr 07, 2009 2:18 pm

I'd guess that swapping out new wires, plugs, and coils made a little difference - because they were new compared to used. You could replace with stock equipment and expect the same results.

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'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch

^^^ SOLD ^^^ frown

'05 GTO • 85k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
Because fun


'70 Olds Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe • 116k miles • 455 Rocket V8
Because cool


'95 Celica • 152k miles • 0-60: yes
Because free
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PostSubject: Re: upgrade coils   upgrade coils EmptyTue Apr 07, 2009 2:27 pm

AA wrote:
I'd guess that swapping out new wires, plugs, and coils made a little difference - because they were new compared to used. You could replace with stock equipment and expect the same results.

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