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PostSubject: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 8:20 pm

Is there a mod or any way of keeping traction control off all of the time without pushing the button at every startup ?
Florida=no snow!
I believe I get better performance with traction off.
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 8:23 pm

Someone with a 1995 Wiring Diagram might be able to steer you in the right direction.
Without looking at the diagram i would be hesitant to tell you something as simple as pull a fuse or relay to disable it.
But it could be as simple as that.
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 9:04 pm

Not sure how the 95's are setup, but i know if i pull the fuse in the side panel for abs, the trac also goes off.
i do remember seeing a mod or way to do what you are talking about, but i believe it requires a tuner.

as for better performance...if the car detects wheel spin it will aply brakes and pull timing until it gains traction. keeping the trac off will keep the pcm from pulling timing (power), but with a mostly stock 95, traction control shouldnt be that limiting. what tires are you running?

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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 9:25 pm

I would like to have the traction control off, but the abs must remain on for safety reasons. so pulling the fuse wouldnt the safe thing to do.
theres probably a ecm wire for traction control that could be disconnected. but i dont know which one. or is tracton control part of the abs module?
Im not even sure if this mod is possible.
and by the way im running michelin xse 225/60s
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 9:29 pm

Traction control is programmed into the computer. You can't turn it off automatically as that's counter to what it's programmed to do! If you pull the fuse, as was mentioned earlier, you also lose the abs. So the short answer is there's no easy way.
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 9:39 pm

pretend yur james bond...whenever ya git in tha car ..go ahead and push that button! good things will happen!
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 10:13 pm

knew i saw it somewhere, just took me awhile to find it!

https://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=645&catid=107

not sure what the compatibility is for a 95 riv, but it says it works on any gm with a trac button.
That is what you're looking for.

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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Jul 20, 2009 10:22 pm

My first reaction to this was "why do you want the default to be OFF and just how difficult is it to hit the switch.
But I guess your not alone in wanting the default setting to be OFF as evidenced by someone actually making and selling a module for reasonably short money. That's the solution to your "Problem"
Good Luck with the install.
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 12:05 am

i might be wrong..but with the traction button off...the traction still has a mild ability to kick in at a certain point...i remember on mine once..i had it OFF in the snow...and traction kicked in at some point.

also...i dont know why u would wanna turn it off forever...traction control could also be used in the rain....which florida is definetly accustom to. if theres a huge puddle on the right and the tires go through it...it will actually keep u straight.
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 6:47 am

xxsupergman25xx wrote:
i might be wrong..but with the traction button off...the traction still has a mild ability to kick in at a certain point...i remember on mine once..i had it OFF in the snow...and traction kicked in at some point.

also...i dont know why u would wanna turn it off forever...traction control could also be used in the rain....which florida is definetly accustom to. if theres a huge puddle on the right and the tires go through it...it will actually keep u straight.

There is an over-rev protection, which will kick in whether traction control is on or off.
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 1:03 pm

ok thanks I appreciate all the the info. ill just push the button when i want traction off.
and thanks MrRiviera for the link. I will save it for a future mod.
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 1:48 pm

You could always pull the fuse but it would disconnect the magnasteer, ABS, and TC. The three systems are grouped together. The light will always stay on unless you pull the bulb.
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PostSubject: help   Traction control off all of the time EmptySun Dec 08, 2013 4:26 pm

Has anyone found a way to permanently disable this piece of monstrosity Traction control this dumb ass failed technology
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptySun Dec 08, 2013 4:38 pm

You could remove the ABS fuse. But why not just leave it alone and push the traction button when you need to shut it off? It's not a monstrosity. It works quite well with the exception of snow combined with your heavy right foot.
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptySun Dec 08, 2013 4:44 pm

It has failed me one too many times, being that my yard is only grass and predominantly mudd I pressed the switch it was off, but as I am leaving soft areas where I need to continue kicks it right back on. So meanwhile I get stuck sad right
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptySun Dec 08, 2013 8:53 pm

Just keep putting miles on your car, until one of the speed sensors fails. The system will disable itself and then you'll have your wish!

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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptySun Dec 08, 2013 9:21 pm

AA wrote:
Just keep putting miles on your car, until one of the speed sensors fails. The system will disable itself and then you'll have your wish!
all these parts I've been changing its getting the works. Haven't made it to 5grand yet so im ok but not that far away tho
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptySun Dec 08, 2013 9:29 pm

Pretty sure it can be tuned out. Anyone who actually has a tuner confirm this?
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptySun Dec 08, 2013 9:50 pm

I got stuck in the mudd cuz of the dumb that dumb shit it kicked on while I was gliding thru it. Stopped the wheels and it sunk it
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Dec 09, 2013 1:43 am

My traction control is never on! I dont know why, but ever since i put the motor in TC is always off! I dont really mind it on or off lol
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Dec 09, 2013 1:57 am

Mine is always on.....
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Dec 09, 2013 3:50 am

It sucks it works right at the wrong time ... no go I keep the switch off cause the car drives much better without it
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Dec 09, 2013 10:31 am

I think the traction control has it's merits on flat ground to get you moving a little, but going up hills it tends to rob your needed speed and momentum.
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Dec 09, 2013 1:02 pm

Johnny5 wrote:
(snip)...as I am leaving soft areas where I need to continue kicks it right back on.
Are you saying that it's turning back on shortly after you turn it off? If so, something is wrong. If you are just saying that it turns back on each time you start the car, that's by design.
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PostSubject: Re: Traction control off all of the time   Traction control off all of the time EmptyMon Dec 09, 2013 1:13 pm

I was driving out of my yard for work turned the tcs off. The ground got a little soft the tcs kicked right in leaving me stuck in the mudd, im just saying even with it off its still on and the mudd in my yard is not tcs friendly
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