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PostSubject: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:52 pm

Hello all,

I just bought -96 Riviera SC from Estonia.
The reason for that was simple: these cars are way too expensive here in Finland and this example was in good condition.

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132000 miles
Black exterior, beige interior (I'll try to take some good photos later).

Thanks to forum I've got good information about this model way before I even bought the car. happy

Known problems:
1. A/C blows only cold for driver, but passenger side is full adjustable.
2. That little 90 elbow below SC (LIM coolant elbow?) leaks.
3. Thanks to Finnish regulations I have to do some re-wiring for lights and flashers.

This car is wonderful! Of course, there is significant leap from my previous cars, Plymouth Savoy 1958 and Lancia Thema 1993, but I'll try to manage and take off my MOPAR t-shirts and badges and Italian flags. wink
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:30 pm

Hello, Jari. Welcome! It's a small Riviera world. Are you friends with Timo?

Link: http://rivperformance.editboard.com/showroom-f3/snowdog-s-riv-t5219-105.htm

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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:37 pm

Hello Aaron! I don't know Timo (yet), but let's see if we meet some day.

I just finished reading HVAC topics and I'll try to do some magic with actuators.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:54 pm

Welcome to the forum and same in finnish "tervetuloa foorumille"
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:15 pm

Welcome! Glad you found us.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:16 pm

welcome yo!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:37 pm

Welcome to the site and congratulations on finding a Riv......... Timo has a 96 SC also.
Try and find out if you live close enough to Timo, I'll be sending him some Riv parts in the next week or two and I can add a pair of coolant elbows for an addition $15.00 US or so if you can't find replacements there.
Here, I can get the package with both elbows for the LIM, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:52 pm

Hey!
you boght it from auto24.ee?

i think for a 96 you do not need to change much...when its +97 need to change headlights and all others.

but anyways if you boght it from est and want to change rears so that they have yellow plinking lights then here is one good solution.
http://www.macustom.eu/ee/gallery/57/Buick-Riviera-tagumised-LED-suunatuled

and guess you need to but a black tape on the rear red sidemarkers and add a side plinking light on front. one guy in this forum moded side plinking light into the rivs mirror-. you could also truy this.


anyways welcome
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:17 pm

Hello again,

yes, this is from auto24.ee. The very same seller has silver -96 for sale too.
Red flashers on back are OK, but like you said I have to add yellow flashers to front fenders or side mirrors. Yellow lights on front must be disabled but can be used as flashers like they're now, and rear sidemarkers must be taped.
This is crazy, but what can you do? happy

Rickw, I'll check those elbows tomorrow and contact you if local stores cannot help.

Now I feel that I'm with good guys and gals!
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:28 pm

how much was the car tax(autovero)?
anyways you can order everythign all by yourself tho from
www.rockauto.com


i ahve ordered from there tho but it just suck that need to bay later taxes for the parts.

Also Rick has helped me alot on geting parts.
he just buyes everythign what i need buts into one box and sends everythign on one time.
buts a lether in it that its all as a gift and like the order says yo do not need to pay any taxes for a gift so i have got the pack taxfree.


btw about the elbow...you can just get one O ring from any hydraulik shop and just replace them on the elbow? would be easyer.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:13 am

Snowdog wrote:
btw about the elbow...you can just get one O ring from any hydraulik shop and just replace them on the elbow? would be easyer.

The coolant elbows are plastic and they get brittle as they age. They are on the shelf around here, and very cheap. I recommend replacing it instead of just trying to get an o-ring. (The new one will come with O-rings)
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:07 am

Snowdog wrote:
how much was the car tax(autovero)?
anyways you can order everythign all by yourself tho from
www.rockauto.com

The tax will be something around 2500-3500 . When I checked from our Customs, July 2008 was the last time somebody has brought Riviera here and then tax was 2500.
It cannot be much higher.

Rockauto works, I've ordered some parts for my -58 Plymouth.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:56 am

so much as i know it goes whit the lowest price whit what the same car at the time is for sell.
the lowest i have seen in finland was a 95 for 6000euro

and the % how much tax you need to bay was 28% of the car price if i remember right?
you can get the tax lower if you show damages on the car...big scratches ...all things what need to be fixed to get it in top shape.
all this takes the tax more down.

My father has imported 5 cars to finland..thats why i know..
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:26 am

28% is quite correct, on newer cars it changes between 22-31 (or more), depending on manufacturer, month, position of the moon and the amount of potential Cthulhu worshippers...

It was quite hard to show real damages, but I made my best. A big dent on oil pan, rust hole (!!) under battery, covering plate of ashtray and cigarette holder was broken, some scratches on driver's seat, no warm air for driver..... let's see what Customs say.

BTW I fixed HVAC actuators yesterday. MODE actuator had broken gear, the big one which turns the air flap. I changed its position 180 and now everything works.

Now the biggest thing is to find proper winter tires. I should have bought them from Estonia (cheaper). Maybe Michelin X-Ice:s.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:37 pm

let me guess....you buyed thisone?





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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:56 pm

Yep happy
It has now extra side flashers on front fenders but it's just like in those pictures.

I had to remove front bumper core to get front beams out and install parking lights into them and of course I smashed several clips that hold plastic inner wheel wells and those chrome arches together.

Maybe Rick can help?

Changing coolant elbow was easy to do.
Riviera is amazingly quiet car even when driving with studded tires.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:52 pm

i'm sure Rick can help.
he shiped me 2 big packiges of parts a week ago.
guess they will arrive next weak or later.
i ordered tho lots of diferent clips so he knows where and whitch ones to get. smile

they relly did not allow to use the orange lights as parking lights?
what abotu turnsignal lights?(the white ones on sides)
could use them as parking lights?
in estonia they actualy want to have a fog light on rear and flashers on sides but my car is tottaly stock on exterjor happy
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:12 am

Parking lights must be white since 1.1.1968. Yellow side lights are OK and they can be used as flashers and they even can be seen in front of car, BUT because of there are two different bulbs, I have to disable the front one and use it only as flasher (confusing? Yep.)
White turn signal light next to front beam, which is cornering light, is not allowed so I disabled it too.

It is a common way to insult our Inspection guys and wonder on loud that how in Earth are all those Americans stayed alive so long even their cars and especially lights are SOOOO dangerous happy

I'm happy that my Riv is -96, -97 would do the same, but after 31.12.1997 registered cars everything is different: after that DOT-approved front beams aren't acceptable and those must be changed to E-approved ones which have height adjustment (not available). If everything would go as I afraid of, -98 has very, very dangerous front windshield which must be changed to E-approved one.

But, it's only -96 model. That's my 2 cents.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:12 pm

i know all about that....even unos dodge 3500...had TOO GOOD brakes....compearing whit european cars...and they sayed its dangerous to have TOO GOOD brakes! ffs....i told them if they want to have a litle test..and stand on the road when i come 60miph and brake...would they like that the car stops 10cm front of them or 200cm.

also cos it was a truck he had to but million lights on it....now it has even more lights then our last years christmas tree...

those rules are just so F-ed up.
one day i even saw a nissan skyline R34 what had tail lights removed and trailer lights installed on ther place...even tho i know the stock ones had everythign ok whit them...red braiking light, orange turn signal..and so on...but no E mark on them..
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:06 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:46 pm

Welcome!
You Fin's got some crazy laws....

I would not tape rear lights, pull, sand and paint to match!
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:55 pm

Greetings!

If I understand correctly the brakes are disapproved because they stop too well?
What about the windshield is considered dangerous or not approved?

Do the "chicks" over there dig the Riviera?

I would imagine they would appreciate a luxury car just like the hotties over here do....just curious. pimp

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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:12 pm

Those laws are, at least partially, EU-laws. Every country can still use their own national legislation and our bureaucratics use that as an excuse to overrun EU-legislation.
Estonia, Germany and other countries give right for individuals to bring, for example, an US. built car and use it AS IS, but not in Finland, BUT if you live outside Finland for one year or more you can bring what ever car you want and you DON'T have to do these modifications happy
So, suddenly everything is OK.

Bert, the windshield is not approved, not dangerous, but you can get equivalency testimony nowadays quite easily, I've been told.

People near me have only positive things to say about Riviera. It's quite rare bird here amongst all of those Toyotas and BMW's. My girlfriend likes it very much although she's more into 50's fins. smile
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:00 pm

welcome imma newbie to but ive had my riv 96 sc for about 3 years now
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie with Riviera SC -96   Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:03 am

Happy Happy Joy Joy!

I got car tax calculations last wednesday...

2761 for a 13 years old car!

Oh I love our system so much happy

But, happy Finnish Independence Day for you all!
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