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Eldo Addict

Name: Mark Location: The "other" side of the Golden Gate. Joined: 2009-04-09 Post Count: 2937 Merit: 96
 | Subject: Mirror Compass Calibration Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:51 pm | |
| Has anyone else here ever checked the calibration of their mirror-compass? When I bought my car, a 1-owner California car, the mirror was still set to Detroit's longitude 8 years after it was first sold! So much for "dealer prep"...  |
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Rickw Expert
Name: Rick Age: 53 Location: Lancaster, MA Joined: 2008-09-13 Post Count: 5957 Merit: 96
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:20 pm | |
| Yes, I was Anal enough to read my owner's manual after buying the car and the PO had it set to Detroit longitude still. having worked at a dealership for a while and reading the new Car Prep Checklist, Setting the Compass was not on any prep sheet. So the mechanic's responsible would not know to do it and boneheads like me that were responsible reviewing said checklist's didn't have a clue either.
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Eldo Addict

Name: Mark Location: The "other" side of the Golden Gate. Joined: 2009-04-09 Post Count: 2937 Merit: 96
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:22 pm | |
| | Rickw wrote: | | Yes, I was Anal enough to read my owner's manual after buying the car and the PO had it set to Detroit longitude still. |
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albertj Aficionado

Name: Location: Finger Lakes of New York State Joined: 2007-05-31 Post Count: 4901 Merit: 100
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:08 pm | |
| | Rickw wrote: | Yes, I was Anal enough to read my owner's manual after buying the car and the PO had it set to Detroit longitude still. having worked at a dealership for a while and reading the new Car Prep Checklist, Setting the Compass was not on any prep sheet. So the mechanic's responsible would not know to do it and boneheads like me that were responsible reviewing said checklist's didn't have a clue either. |
I did too, but I thought it might have reset to Detroit if the battery had been disconnected - so I just changed the declination setting and recalibrated.
Funny thing - I wish they could have made it easier to reset/recalibrate because when I go east to NYC or west to Ohio the declination settings become wrong. The problem then is that visual cues (the direction of shadows for instance) then sometimes don't match what the compass is telling me. I guess you could say it's noticeable but not *that* big a deal once your remember what's going on.
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deekster_caddy Guru
Name: Derek Age: 40 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-01-31 Post Count: 6091 Merit: 83
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:56 am | |
| Not only do you have to set the 'variation' depending on where you live, but if you want it to be accurate you also need to put it into 'calibration' mode and drive around in some slow consistent circles. One of the first things I did when I got my Riv.
(I calibrate marine compasses for a side-living) |
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AA Administrator

Name: Aaron Age: 34 Location: C-bus, Ohio Joined: 2007-01-13 Post Count: 14467 Merit: 172
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:16 am | |
| I calibrated mine once, but didn't notice much difference. Since that time, I've drained my battery completely a couple times, and disconnected the mirror for a week, and it still reads perfect. | Quote: | | The problem then is that visual cues (the direction of shadows for instance) then sometimes don't match what the compass is telling me. I guess you could say it's noticeable but not *that* big a deal once your remember what's going on. |
I've noticed this as well, but I don't think the compass is wrong. The sun doesn't always project accurate shadows, because throughout the year it moves on different paths across the sky. It also varies depending on N/S location:
 _________________ "An intercooled, supercharged, 280 HP Buick Riviera with neck-snapping acceleration and precise handling that proves GM can make something really interesting and competent, if only they would build more than one at a time." - John R. White, Boston Globe
"I think that in any racing engine, the nearer you are to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be." - Keith Duckworth, Cosworth Engineering
'98 SC Riviera • 238k miles • 298 HP/370 LB-FT • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.5 avg MPG
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albertj Aficionado

Name: Location: Finger Lakes of New York State Joined: 2007-05-31 Post Count: 4901 Merit: 100
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:03 am | |
| good points Aaron...
Except, in the Northern Hemisphere (where we are) doesn't the sun's apparent arc run southerly? In your drawing it runs northerly.
If so the angles in your drawing are about right for the seasons in North America but the compass headings should be flipped N/S. Looks like your drawing was done for maybe Chile or Australia. Or southern Africa...
That is, the reason the equatorial regions are tropical is they get more hours of and more consistent sun. Sun shines, in general, on the southern exposures of buildings in the northern hemisphere, and on the northern exposures of buildings in the southern hemisphere... your drawing shows sun on northern exposures.
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Rickw Expert
Name: Rick Age: 53 Location: Lancaster, MA Joined: 2008-09-13 Post Count: 5957 Merit: 96
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:10 am | |
| | albertj wrote: | If so the angles in your drawing are about right for the seasons in North America but the compass headings should be flipped N/S. Looks like your drawing was done for maybe Chile or Australia. Or southern Africa...
That is, the reason the equatorial regions are tropical is they get more hours of and more consistent sun. Sun shines, in general, on the southern exposures of buildings in the northern hemisphere, and on the northern exposures of buildings in the southern hemisphere... your drawing shows sun on northern exposures.
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Albertj |
You are correct Sir, Having lived in both Regions for a time, I can confirm. But, you know AA was just trying to make a point without being astronomically correct. |
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AA Administrator

Name: Aaron Age: 34 Location: C-bus, Ohio Joined: 2007-01-13 Post Count: 14467 Merit: 172
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:38 pm | |
| Yes, the shadow angles should be reversed, but the diagram would be correct for someone in the southern hemisphere. Either way, you won't get a perfect overhead path of the sun unless you live somewhere ~12º north or south latitude, like in northern parts of Australia. There the shadows would point almost directly east or west for much of the year. _________________ "An intercooled, supercharged, 280 HP Buick Riviera with neck-snapping acceleration and precise handling that proves GM can make something really interesting and competent, if only they would build more than one at a time." - John R. White, Boston Globe
"I think that in any racing engine, the nearer you are to disintegrating, in general the better its performance will be." - Keith Duckworth, Cosworth Engineering
'98 SC Riviera • 238k miles • 298 HP/370 LB-FT • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.5 avg MPG
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco F/Rsway bars • ES links/bushings • GM strut brace • Enkei 18" EV5s • Dunlop DZ101 tires F-body calipers • EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • slotted discs • ATE superblue fluid • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch
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DEMonte1997 Fanatic

Name: Rick Age: 34 Location: CT Joined: 2009-03-03 Post Count: 1284 Merit: 31
 | Subject: Calibrate rearview mirror compass? Sun May 16, 2010 1:19 pm | |
| I just purchased one that was out of a 99+ Intrigue. It's supposed to be a plug and play unit. The map lights and auto dim work perfectly fine but... The compass only reads NW most of the time. Sometimes it will switch to W or N. I know it's wrong because I was driving on I-91 S and it read NW.
Is this just a bad unit or is there a way to calibrate it? |
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DEMonte1997 Fanatic

Name: Rick Age: 34 Location: CT Joined: 2009-03-03 Post Count: 1284 Merit: 31
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Sun May 16, 2010 6:35 pm | |
| I got this..  |
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deekster_caddy Guru
Name: Derek Age: 40 Location: Reading, MA Joined: 2007-01-31 Post Count: 6091 Merit: 83
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Sun May 16, 2010 6:47 pm | |
| Let me know if you need help. I ran mine through the calibration (it's in the owners manual) and not that it matters but I also calibrate boat compasses on the side. |
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albertj Aficionado

Name: Location: Finger Lakes of New York State Joined: 2007-05-31 Post Count: 4901 Merit: 100
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Sun May 16, 2010 7:43 pm | |
| | DEMonte1997 wrote: | I just purchased one that was out of a 99+ Intrigue. It's supposed to be a plug and play unit. The map lights and auto dim work perfectly fine but... The compass only reads NW most of the time. Sometimes it will switch to W or N. I know it's wrong because I was driving on I-91 S and it read NW.
Is this just a bad unit or is there a way to calibrate it? |
Should be able to follow the directions in the Riv's owners' manual to reset the compass declination. Declination mis-set is enough to mess up your reasings in the way you describe.
Else - could be a bad unit, although I've *never* heard of one going bad.
Albertj |
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Mr.Riviera Aficionado

Name: Matthew Age: 25 Location: Florida Joined: 2007-01-17 Post Count: 4008 Merit: 82
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Sun May 16, 2010 9:58 pm | |
| When i wired up one of those to work in my 96 i had to calibrate it. manula says to drive in a slow (<5mph) tight circle 2-3 times to calibrate the compass.
Mine is from an Olds Alero and it has extra lights on the bottom that point perfectly in the laps of the driver/passenger. defiantly worth the afternoon of running a few wires around. _________________  |
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DEMonte1997 Fanatic

Name: Rick Age: 34 Location: CT Joined: 2009-03-03 Post Count: 1284 Merit: 31
 | Subject: Re: Mirror Compass Calibration Sun May 16, 2010 11:04 pm | |
| Mine might be bad which is odd... To reset, I had to hold down both map lights. After 10 seconds, the screen changes and displays an "8". That stays for another 10 seconds. I tried the driving in circles going slowly as described here. Did it twice and it didn't change. The mirror almost constantly reads "NW". What really worries me is that this compass only reads "NW" and "N". WTF? Guess the compass unit itself is ruined or something.. I might have to alert the seller to this and hope they are good with customer service. |
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