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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:12 pm

Ok how big are the wires running from the battery to the positive connection under the hood?
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:28 pm

nebstewart07 wrote:
Ok how big are the wires running from the battery to the positive connection under the hood?

i am no expert but this much i can tell you. there is no such thing as too big a positive cable. o gauge wire(expensive) can ALLWAYS be used.
for the positive cable ,bigger is better.
p.s dont forget to weigh the seat
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:30 pm

You can't go too big, even if it makes no detectable difference. It's only money!

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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:08 am

Even the wire running from the amp to the battery cant be too big?
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:34 am

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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:29 pm

nebstewart07 wrote:
Ok how big are the wires running from the battery to the positive connection under the hood?
Big enough to not worry about.

The so called "Big 3" doesn't really pertain to the Riv. We have a large enough cable for the Bat to the under hood aux connector.
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:36 pm

are they 0 gauge? or 2 gauge. I just bought 50 foot of 0 gauge so now I have to use it lol. I got a good deal on it. So anyone know what size it is?
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:16 am

I think the OEM is 6 gauge. You bought about twice as much as needed!

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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:47 pm

Ya i know it was the same price for 20 foot as it was for 50 foot some speacial they were havin. So I ordered 50 foot.
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:33 pm

2toneRivi wrote:
ok i had a question.... when u change the big 3 ground cables to thicker cables

1. Battery + to alternator
2. battery ground to chassis
3. Chassis to engine.
do u still keep the oem cables.. just add the new cable or do u throw away the oem and keep the new one???

You DON'T have to replace the stock wires, you can just piggy back them. Current will go through the wires with the lowest resistance and larger wire has less resistance than smaller wire.

If you plan on running a sizable car audio setup, I would definitely do this even though it is a lesser issue in the riv than other cars.
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:53 pm

nebstewart07 wrote:
Ya i know it was the same price for 20 foot as it was for 50 foot some speacial they were havin. So I ordered 50 foot.
have you done your big 3 upgrade? any pics?

anyone have pics and/or mind doing a write up?
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:02 pm

By that way the wiring is 2 gauge
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PostSubject: Alternator Power Cable   Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:47 pm

hey I jus purchased and recieved my alternator power cable from zzperformance.com
But I.dont.know exactly where to connect the other end of.the cable. It says to place one end on.the alternator..and the other end to the power connector.on.the fuse box under hood??

Has.anybody else purchased and.installed this.cable..or.one.like.it???
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:52 pm

To be effective, you'd need to route the cable direct to the battery.

Was the kit specific for Riviera? Most of ZZP product is aimed at W-Body, which has battery up front. If there's a G-Body option, the cable needs to be probably 12-15 ft long.

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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:54 pm

I didnt.notice one..buttt..that makes sense because I.purchased a part before that didnt fit..
But..this cord is short..so it probably doesnt fit..smh..im gonnela just start calling.n.ordering from now.on lol
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:57 pm

From the description page:

"The stock wire goes from the alternator to the starter with a 10' 8 gauge wire and then from there to the battery through another 8 gauge wire, then from the battery to the top of the under hood fuse box. Our alternator rewire goes from the back of the alternator to the power connector on the under hood fuse box. It can safely be run with the OEM one still connected."

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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:01 pm

Smh...fuse.box under hood..we dont.even.have one.under the hood.do.we????? Lol
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:18 pm

I ran a 6 gauge battery cable from my alternator to the positive post under the hood and it did help. It's the little black connector under the hood with the big "+" on it. There is a nut in there you can remove and if you get the right battery cable with a big ring terminal it slides right over the post. The feed from the battery to that post is massive, more than sufficient I think.

(Disconnect your negative from the battery when doing this of course)

I also ran a 6 gauge battery cable from one of the alternator retaining bolts down to a large body/ground point in the front near the radiator hoses.
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:22 pm

So the 6 gauge cable u ran to the posotive post ..did.u.run.it frum the post on.the back of alternator????
and the other one..did u run.it.from.the same place on.the.alternator???
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:35 pm

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So the 6 gauge cable u ran to the posotive post ..did.u.run.it frum the post on.the back of alternator????
and the other one..did u run.it.from.the same place on.the.alternator???

Yes. I got a battery cable with two ring terminals, one I put right on the back of the alternator positive post to the underhood jump start positive, the other from the alternator retaining bolt to the corner of the body just forward of the front engine mount, near the radiator. I left the OEM cable also attached on the back of the alternator. I think I routed the positive cable back to the firewall and across, the negative cable under the supercharger snout, out the front next to the coil packs then over to the body.
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:39 pm

Ok..im.not.the brightest bulb..lol..but i think i.get it.
Would.it.be toooo much for.you.to.take a pic?.i.plan on.doing this asap. Like tomorrow
I just wanna make sure im.doing it.the right way.
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:59 pm

Noah what are you trying to connect?
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:05 pm

I bought a alternator power cable..to.get.more power from.yhe alternator..trying.to.b cheap lol n.not have to get.more powerful alternator.just.yet
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:22 pm

dboydakid wrote:
I bought a alternator power cable..to.get.more power from.yhe alternator..trying.to.b cheap lol n.not have to get.more powerful alternator.just.yet

if you are trying to handle power surge demands you're wasting your time probly on the alternator and you need to look at mounting a second battery in parallel to the one you have... have to put it in the trunk somewhere...
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PostSubject: Re: The "Big 3" Wire/Cable Upgrade   Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:31 am

foreal??? i thought if i just get a higher amp'd alternator my problem would be solved.

see, i recently purchased a alternator from advanced auto and it failed., i had to get a new one fast.so i went to junkyard and got a cheap one..ever since my lights dim, flicker, when the heats on it goes in and out..so i got the power cable to hold me over until i got a new alternator. the suggestions above had me wanting to try them until i get a new/more powerful alternator since the cable is not compatible with my riviera
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