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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:56 pm

Exciting! I see that bracket you made up for mounting to the control arm so how did the top get mounted?
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:00 pm

This would be a great problem to solve with FEA analysis. IBx1: you have some fancy CAD packages at your school. How about Matt sending you a spare control arm?

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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:02 pm

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This would be a great problem to solve with FEA analysis. IBx1: you have some fancy CAD packages at your school. How about Matt sending you a spare control arm?

Hah, I don't have one. If he's interested enough in messing with one I could probably pick one up.

Codith - I answered your question on my previous post, I saw you had posted your question when I was typing so I added it to that post.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:51 am

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I'm just concerned that the control arms weren't designed to hold the entire weight of the rear of that car at that point. Of course it sits fine, but what happens when you hit a big bump? There's not really a whole lot that it's holding on to at the bottom. Just my 2 cents.

Keep in mind that if the ride height ends up being the same, the amount of 'lift' created by the spring is no more than the amount of lift created by the airbags when you have stuff in the trunk. So you aren't holding the weight of the entire car any more than the air shocks do.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:32 pm

Very nice! You make me want to spend money on the 95 again.

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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:25 pm

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Very nice! You make me want to spend money on the 95 again.

I've got an extra pair of the Konis if you want them.... I'd be willing to let them go for a decent price.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:41 pm

Woo!


Got a noob question about the sleeves for anyone out there who can answer.  Which way is up?  One end has a square inside shoulder, the other end is a bevel. (Images below)





I have two thoughts, the bevel would jam the circlip against the shock, but would the stress of the car weight cause twisting/stress/issues?  The square shoulder being down against the shock circlip currently makes the most sense to me.  The only thing I could find that would say one way or the other was this site:
http://www.miataturbo.net/suspension-brakes-drivetrain-49/better-bilstein-ebay-coilover-thread-78451/page11/
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I ask because I notice in Matt's pics, his initial test assembly has them with the square inside shoulder down, but the installed pics are the other way with the bevel against the circlip. (Note the square inside edge has the outside end beveled, and the end with no outside bevel has the inside chamfer.)

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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:40 pm

I have mine flipped from what you have in the picture so that lip thingy is pointing up instead of down like you have it. Before I sent your shocks out, I moved the circlips to where they are on mine. I never noticed that one side was different than the other. I would imagine that the flat side would probably sit on the circlips better though. I've beat the piss out of these as they are now and they're just as solid as the day we put them on, so do what you want with that info.

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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:44 pm

Yeah, that's what I noticed. Your outer bevel is up, so that means you have the inner bevel down and against the circlip. So far I've opted to have the opposite so that the inner bevel is not against the circlip and the square shoulder is against it. Unless I hear otherwise I think I'll go with that.

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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:29 pm

We'll see what Robo says since this setup is pretty much exactly the same as his.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:43 pm

so.... dunce

you guys take your stock coils out, right? can you remove stuff that holds the stock coil in place?

wondering how much potential weight savings coil overs may bring to the rig.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:19 pm

Stock coils come out. The only thing holding them in place is the isolators which come right off. Not much weight is saved, if at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:12 am

Removing the ELC compressor saves 10lbs. No idea what the stock coils weigh.

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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:51 pm

Any updates Karma?

Front coilover setup might happen this weekend. Hard to say really.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:09 am

No updates from me. Car is still in a snowbank. frown

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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:15 pm

My car is so low stock that I cant even go over an expansion joint without scraping...anyone elses like this? Shocks are only 10k old too..
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:27 pm

How much you weigh, bro?
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:31 pm

haha only 155. The corners are all tight and have great rebound...but I even have problems going into angled driveways unless i'm creeping in. I discovered before that I bought the car with drilled/slotted rotors...I wonder if its possible the springs are replaced too? Sorry not trying to threadjack
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:45 pm

i'd like to see pics of how your riv is sitting.
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PostSubject: Re: Custom Adjustable Front Coilovers for All Years (fabrication required)   Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:53 pm

Just an update since there were a few concerns. Brackets are holding up wonderfully. The tabs bent in a little from tightening down the mounting bolts but that was to be expected and they're still holding strong and tight. Control arms are fine, no cracks or bends or anything and the same goes for the top mounts. Ride is firm and handling is good. I get a rattle when they're on the stiffest setting, can't tell if it's coming from something loose under the rear seat, the mounts, or the coilovers themselves since I haven't really investigated it.
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