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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:25 pm

I think the cars coils are orig. 135kmi. It;s not something that happened overnight. They still work fine but I don't want to take chances.
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:10 pm

Funny thing... almost every 3800 I look at (except for mine) the #6 post (top one) has lots of corrosion.
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:13 pm

deekster_caddy wrote:
Funny thing... almost every 3800 I look at (except for mine) the #6 post (top one) has lots of corrosion.

i just noticed that........... mine also does......... shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:26 pm

Not mine.
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:30 pm

1998 Riv wrote:
Not mine.


offtopic is your riv garage kept??
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:10 pm

get the MSD Code thats what im getting till my swap
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:16 pm

palermocorey90 wrote:
get the MSD Code thats what im getting till my swap

How many people do you know that have put MSD in a series II and have been happy/or noticed a difference............. no ?


OEM FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! banana banana
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:57 pm

My terminals are still shiny at 150k. How many with corroded terminals are using aftermarket coil packs/wires?

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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:00 pm

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My terminals are still shiny at 150k. How many with corroded terminals are using aftermarket coil packs/wires?

i used some accel wire right when i bought the car..... and it was a fix BUT.... they started to misfire after 1 month dunce ........ so then i figure eh ill try the OEM ones and you know what NO MISFIRE SINCE THAT DAY banana banana banana <-that calls for 3 dancing banana's
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:01 pm

the corroded ones I've looked at are stockers. I don't know why some corrode and some don't. All are parked outdoors to my knowledge... Mostly in GTPs but some buicks too. Mine is pretty much the only Riv I get to work on wink
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:03 pm

Oh and I'm still running my original wires at 140K. I have put some split loom over places where the wires rub things. For sure I'll only use the packard/delco wires ever again. No el cheapos if the OEMs lasted this long!!
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:29 pm

I'd replace those wires asap, Derek. I tried to make mine last too, but they really should be changed around 100k as part of basic maintenance. When my car started convulsing one day, I knew I was past due. Wires looked very good even with 110k miles.

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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:00 am

Derek.. I pay $42 at Advance for AC Delcos with a lifetime warranty. Change them up..lol
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PostSubject: msd ignition ?   Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:47 pm

i wanted to find a msd ignition for my 98 riv not sure where to find one tho seems like no place has upgrades for a riviera
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:58 pm

well its pretty well accepted that the msd coils are not really much better than stock if at all. i would just go with OEM declo replacements,
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:56 am

Nothin' wrong with the stock ignition on your car. You don't need MSD. Most guys run over 100k with original parts, other than plugs.
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:06 am

mr.19982tone wrote:
i wanted to find a msd ignition for my 98 riv not sure where to find one tho seems like no place has upgrades for a riviera

If you look at zzperformance.com or intense-racing.com they sell parts for GTP and other 3800 applications. Riviera isn't always listed there, but the parts almost always fit. But, as we've said over and over, MSD coils aren't going to gain you anything over the stockers. There are 11 second cars still running stock coils.
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:08 am

The OEM wires are fine. However, I use Magnecor 8MM Electrosports 80 wires, see

http://www.magnecor.com

Specifically see their Technical Bulletin 119901 about GM supercharged V6 engines. Magnecors are not carbon resistor conductors. They are wire wrapped in a spiral around a kevlar/fiberglass core. Reason I use them is they are somewhat better in terms of temperature resistance and the blue color (they come blue, red or black) makes 'em easier for me to spot under the hood. Frankly, as others have already said repeatedly, the OE wires are fine. IF you just must change, I think you should consdier Magnecors.

The OEM coils are fine, in my experience.

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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:19 pm

Well I decided that instead of just having these crappy ACCEL coils sit in my garage doing nothing, I took them to work and exchanged them for a set of MSD (part number 8224) coils. I might as well try them out. They seem to have a better reputation than accel anyway. I actually talked to a guy at byron last year that ran those same MSD coils on his GN with MSD's adapter plates and he said he was very happy with them.

When they arrive, I'll try them out and update with news on em.
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:45 pm

good do that please code
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:01 pm

Well I put the coils on earlier today and so far so good. First off, this product gave me a MUCH better first impression. Unlike the ACCEL coils, these all looked the same and are casted like OEM, actually better than OEM. The fit and finish is exquisite. The tower posts brass or copper or something along those lines that I would expect to be better than OEM. They actually include instructions (install is a no-brainer anyway) and a nice sticker for emissions certification that are good in all 50 states.

Please ignore the embarassingly dirty engine bay. I'm missing (as in temporarily lost) my passenger fenderliner. dunce





I also went to Ace and got some chrome M5 screws and washers to replace the nasty old ones. Wow am I glad I did that...

Although it's hard to read, that's the emissions tag
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:34 am

Those do look REALLY nice
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:46 am

Those do look nice. I'd consider them for replacement if my stockers ever go bad. Do they come in black or grey?

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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:06 pm

awsome! thats a nice set up. but i guess you had to do away with the stock front cylinder wire cover because the msd wires are too thick, right? they look better than the bosch set i bought,and im sure they perform better. has anybody used the bosch wires? so far they work ok......
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PostSubject: Re: Ignition Coil Packs   Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:41 pm

Does anyone have/know of a write up to relocate the coils to the firewall/other area?

Also: 7 year thread dug up. Did I just beat my old record?
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