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PostSubject: Zmax microlubricant and other additives...   Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:23 pm

So this microlubricant... it says that it penetrates the metal... its pretty viscous stuff... I just don't know how it would really do... anybody ever use this before? It seems like all it is is high temp baby oil...

I've used seafoam before like nearly everyone else... to remove moisture from the gas tank and crankcase... guess it works... haven't tried much else.. gonna use gumout after the rebuild for sure.

Slick 50... its like $15 a quart and is supposed to do wonders... what is this stuff all about? Guess it just renews seals and restores compression but not really sure how..

And anyone use octane booster in their Riviera? I'm thinking it might help the deposits but also warm up the engine quite a bit and make the coolant system work harder and blow gaskets quicker... anyone ever have bad experiences? I use it in my 80 Malibu... but it has a 400ci small block... kinda have to

And Lucas oil stabilizer... you know the one with the display at the parts stores with the gears... turn the gears and the oil sticks much better and seems thicker.... not sure if that is a good thing either...

I'm just really hesitant I guess to load down my oil with detergents and basically... crap. But I do want something that really will help with heat and friction... is there any quality products out there that anybody swears by? I want to try the Zmax... but ive never heard of anyone using it... and that it can actually penetrate the metal... that seems a little farfetched... its not wood.
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PostSubject: Re: Zmax microlubricant and other additives...   Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:33 pm

http://www.ftc.gov/os/adjpro/d9280/index.shtm

Slick50 settled with the FTC some time ago.

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.shtm

Zmax defended itself against the FTC fraud claims.

Thing of it is, anything you put in your gas tank that combusts like gas will increase mileage. Why? Because people never factor in the volume of additional combustible fluid they add. You can get an MPG increase by adding gasoline to your gas tank if you never adjust for the addition in your MPG calculations.



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PostSubject: Re: Zmax microlubricant and other additives...   Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:42 pm

Zmax is tinted mineral oil huh... HAH... it really is just baby oil... I was wondering why it looked oddly familiar..... suspect

And nuf said for slick 50... that's just $15 a quart motor oil..... nice sales pitches tho.. nice to know that all the advertising is unproven.... not putting that crap in my engine... neither of them...

I know octane booster in moderation will help... but yeah compared to the same amount in gas... it amkes sense... might as well take the money for 8 ounces of octane booster and just get another gallon of gas..... makes more sense I guess...

You know what... after reading that and already knowing about this Pennzoil ultra synthetic with hyper cleaning... I'm just going to stick to what's IN the oil already... they know what they are doing and spend millions to formulate the mix and percentages... no use in gunming up the works with something THEY wouldn't reccomend....

I'd say a little seafoam every now and again is OK... to remove the moisture in the tank and crankcase.. as a necessity in Nebraska. I still don't understand how you can put it in the gas OR oil tho... if its a gas additive it would almost HAVE to be combustable.. or it would essentially lower the octane... because I know noone WANTS to put a combustable liquid in their oil....... but other than that ill just find better places to spend my money... like on parts and upgrades like fuel pumps.injectors.ported pistons/superchargers and that good stuff..... other than that just let the pros at Pennzoil do what they do best..
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PostSubject: Re: Zmax microlubricant and other additives...   Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:28 am

there aren't enough additives in the world that wont do as much as regular oil changes will
If one is so interested in maintaining and preserving their engine for as long as possible,the best thing to do is install a pre-oiler. It will guarantee oil pressure and prevent dry starts.synthetic oil has a fair amount of cling,but not enough to prevent eventual scoring of the cylinder walls. A pre-oiler will maintain cylinder compression for much longer.
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PostSubject: Re: Zmax microlubricant and other additives...   Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:29 am

Wow...I'd kindof like to think I was a mechanic in another life... and I e never even heard of a preoiler... what in the hell is that? Its got to be an electric oil pump of some kind....?

As far as additives go after reading the ftc stuff... I'm just going to stick with the Lucas line...

Thx for the info BTW...
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PostSubject: Re: Zmax microlubricant and other additives...   Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:39 am

wee-one wrote:
Wow...I'd kindof like to think I was a mechanic in another life... and I e never even heard of a preoiler... what in the hell is that? Its got to be an electric oil pump of some kind....?

As far as additives go after reading the ftc stuff... I'm just going to stick with the Lucas line...

Thx for the info BTW...

Pre-oiler? look it up.

lucas stuff is quality.for sure. But there is nothing in the world that is going to clean your injectors when they need filters replaced and inj. bodies sonically cleaned.
Seafoam..oil additives etc. really only work on healthy engines.prolonging factory or machine shop work. once an engine is truly carbonized or injectors filthy,bottled additives wont do anything except empty your wallet.
on most additives it clearly states."as part of a preventative maintenance program"
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