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PostSubject: air intake question   Intake ideas EmptyThu Apr 10, 2008 8:58 pm

i found this cold air intake supposed to fit any riviera on ebay but it is really cheap, is this just a good deal or is there some reason why it is so cheap? here is the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-04-Buick-Park-Ave-LeSabre-Riviera-3-8L-V6-Air-Intake_W0QQitemZ230239182683QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item230239182683

please get back to me with your opinions on this intake, it doesnt seem bad b/c there arent any hard bends to restrict flow but i dont know much about filters
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyThu Apr 10, 2008 9:27 pm

It's a pretty good deal. I started with that and added to it. It's not the coldest air you can get but it will give you improved flow for sure and it's an easy install
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyThu Apr 10, 2008 10:50 pm

thanks turtleman, im glad to have advice from someone who tried it
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptySat May 17, 2008 4:32 pm

how much is a replacement filter?
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptySat May 17, 2008 7:49 pm

6spd wrote:
how much is a replacement filter?

I have a replacement KN filter for sale for 25 shipped. Theyre normally like 50 or something new. unless you get a paper filter , but the KN filters have longer change intervals.
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PostSubject: Intake - I think im gonna order this..   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 9:37 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-1994-95-04-Buick-Park-Ave-LeSabre-Riviera-Air-Intake_W0QQitemZ370192245135QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item56312d618f&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A1171|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

i dunno why i never looked on ebay for one of these. ..does this look like a ripoff?
id really prefer one of these instead of tryin to figure everything out for myself.
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 9:41 pm

Meh, its a warm air intake by definition so you're not really doing much better than the stock box. If you're not into designing a PVC intake, you could order some intake tubing by the foot like this kind offered by ZZP. That way you can get the filter down into the fenderwell and the cool air.

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=319&catid=113
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 10:27 pm

How hard would it be to buy this kit and then build a heat shield for it to make it into more of a cold air intake? I think for 20 bucks its a good start but would need some finishing touches.
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 10:31 pm

Similar to what Matt suggested, id reccomend just getting some 3.5" intake tubing from ZZP or intense:
http://intense-racing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=IR&Product_Code=AIR-xx0&Category_Code=3800_Induction

The flexible tubing is a quick, cheap, and effective way to do a CAI. Of note is that you don't need a coupler or anything to get 3.5" intense tubing on the 95 sc throttlebody, as it can be squeezed on and pipeclamped. Then all thats needed is a cone filter for the other end.

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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 10:43 pm

why did matt say 4 and andrew say 3.5....see this is why i jsut wanna have sum1 just make it for me lol

and i dont know how long to make it
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 11:14 pm

xxsupergman25xx wrote:
why did matt say 4 and andrew say 3.5....see this is why i jsut wanna have sum1 just make it for me lol

and i dont know how long to make it

The 4" piping will require some grinding or cutting of the stock hole to the fenderwell in order to fit, plus as Andrew said the 4" requires a coupler to hook onto the TB. The 3.5" on the other hand should squeeze in without trouble. It's just up to you, the 4" tubing will allow for better airflow, but will require that extra work. This is where your personal choice comes into play happy As for length, TonySmooth89 should be able to help with a more accurate number since he is running a similar setup.


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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 11:19 pm

see i run into a huge problem.....right now im stayin in a condo association...theres a gay ass rule and can not do ANY car maintenence unless its an emergency..thats why im a little worried to do a lot of work. i just wanted sumthin i could just throw on..

im guessin i have to take off the airbox? does it screw off? or do i have to break it off?
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 11:24 pm

xxsupergman25xx wrote:
see i run into a huge problem.....right now im stayin in a condo association...theres a gay ass rule and can not do ANY car maintenence unless its an emergency..thats why im a little worried to do a lot of work. i just wanted sumthin i could just throw on..

im guessin i have to take off the airbox? does it screw off? or do i have to break it off?

Removing the airbox is very easy. For a good explanation check out this thread:
http://rivperformance.editboard.com/series-ii-engine-transmission-f4/write-up-gutting-the-air-box-t680.htm?highlight=gutting

After that's gone, all you would have to do is take the intake tubing you purchased, make a mock-up between the TB and fenderwell, and figure out the length necessary. Then cut the tubing to size, clamp to the TB, and put on the cone filter and you're done. Unfortunately to get the filter on you will have to remove the fender lining above the wheel but it's no big deal. Can you perform the job at a friends place?
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 11:32 pm

i thought a 95 didnt need to gut an air box..it alreaady came that way?

i dont have any friends down here..
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 11:40 pm

xxsupergman25xx wrote:
i thought a 95 didnt need to gut an air box..it alreaady came that way?

i dont have any friends down here..

Well that thread was just to explain how to remove the box, I'm not exactly sure but it should be the same for '95s as for '96-'99s (Karma chime in here). You could do it in a parking lot or something i suppose, you would just need a ratchet and socket set to remove the airbox, something to cut the piping with, and a tool to remove the fender lining pins (someone suggested a good tool in another thread but i cant seem to find it).
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 11:45 pm

i found that thread,,,ill have to look 2morro at the riv..ill check around and look to see exactly how hard it can be for me to figure out. or maybe later on tonight when the security guard leaves..or ill go for a drive and look at it.
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 11:51 pm

xxsupergman25xx wrote:
i found that thread,,,ill have to look 2morro at the riv..ill check around and look to see exactly how hard it can be for me to figure out. or maybe later on tonight when the security guard leaves..or ill go for a drive and look at it.

It's really simple when you get down there. Loosen a wing nut to get intake pipe off, and 2 bolts for the box if i remember correctly.


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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyMon May 04, 2009 11:55 pm

ive changed the air filter before. so im not the dumbest idiot in the world. just next to it lol
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyTue May 05, 2009 12:52 am

yeah, the procedure is the same for the 95 air box. The two bolts holding it down can be taken out with a simple socket set. For the 95, you only need like 2 feet of intake tubing. For the fender pins, i just used a set of pliers(carefully). Make sure your ties are all the way turned to the right, and you can access the fenderwell n/p. I did my intake in 45 min in the rain, so its really not too hard. Besides the tubing and the filter, the only other fiddly bit besides some pipe clamps would be a short bit 3.5" pipe to go between the filter and the hose.

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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyTue May 05, 2009 1:09 am

I wouldn't use 4 inch on a 95... It seems like it would be pretty overkill.


But yeah every mod i do is usually something i considered beyond my abilities , so just dont let it intimidate you. Its not that hard.

And FYI you only need 2' of piping.
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyTue May 05, 2009 1:22 am

2 feet doesnt seem like much?
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyTue May 05, 2009 1:24 am

xxsupergman25xx wrote:
2 feet doesnt seem like much?

Yeah But it was enough for me- My setup here
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyTue May 05, 2009 1:31 am

ok thanks...can u get that stuff at autozone/pepboys/anywhere else not online/
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyTue May 05, 2009 6:45 am

FWIW that intake will not serve you any better than the a gutted stock airbox. The stock airbox does even better because it has holes aligned with holes in the inner fenders, so it's even by default a FWI. I pulled my airbox out and put some 1" foam window insulation around the holes to force it to pull air from the FW, but even so the fenderwell is open to the engine compartment on the bottom.

But still, the point is, you will only be changing the sound. Don't do this for performance gains.
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PostSubject: Re: Intake ideas   Intake ideas EmptyTue May 05, 2009 3:34 pm

wow thanks for confusin me even more
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