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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:08 pm

I was wondering, on the zzp site they also have 1.95:1 aluminum roller rockers available. Would these give slightly better performance than the 1.9:1 setup? I know that I need the springs, and pushrods. I would much rather go this route than a cam because I am not inclined to take out my engine, or pay out the arse for someone else to do it. any suggestions/help is greatly appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:33 pm

The 1.95:1 should offer a very slight flow advantage because it gives more lift. I don't know exactly how durable the valvetrain is with this ratio, but with higher the ratio/lift, you get more HP at the expense of more strain on valvetrain, timing chain, etc. I've seen almost 100K miles on the 1.9:1 ratio, so it's probably okay. But, you notice no one will try 2:1. There's something about going that far that seems dangerous. 1.95:1 seems like pushing the envelope, imo, but who knows for sure? Seems they are being very careful about not going 2:1, so you know it's a very sensitive thing.

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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:43 pm

thanks for the advice, i think im just gonna stick with the 1.9's then. also does anyone know how much it would cost for a professional to do the work for me, because I am not very knowledgeable on doing this by myself. And I would rather have a liable professional screw up my engine than me.
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:07 pm

Doesn't Zoomer from ZZP have a 9 second Regal? Maybe it was a Gran Prix. It may not be a daily driver at any rate.
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:01 pm

Zoomer is a douche IMO thats what i think about him
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:07 am

Driving a high 11 second car in snow doesn't seem like fun to me.

And There's a turbo regal idown here pushing over 550whp ( probably like 600 when he gets his tuning and fuel system done, oh and thats not using his 150 shot of N2O ) and he drives it year round , because florida has mild winters , and yeah you're not gonna match it with a roots blown NIC build.

Don't get me wrong , go all out if you want , but high 11s , won't put you close to the fastest DD regal.
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:10 am

With springs and everything, I'd guess around 150-200 bucks.

I'm probably gonna let my mechanic install mine , after the track trip next week.
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:44 am

I've never dealt with Zoomer. What's the problem?
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:45 pm

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I've never dealt with Zoomer. What's the problem?

It's got to do with his new purchase of his NIC cam.... Zoomer asked him to buy a ZZP pcm when Corey asked politley for a .BIN for his regal for the cam.....
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:21 pm

I wouldn't expect ZZP to give him a bin either. Bins may get passed around freely in the private sector...
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:33 pm

but then they say they will, and they dont. kinda pisses me off. i was told if i buy the cam. i will get the bin for free. but now they want crazy cash for it
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:22 pm

Well that's different. Did zoomer himself tell you that? Let's have the full story.
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:24 pm

i sent them an email, and they said they would. and now there telling me to buy a PCM
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:40 pm

They really can't provide 'a .bin for a cam' anyway. .bin for what? MAF table? VE table? Timing table? Shift points? These things vary SO much from car to car depending on many different factors there is no way they can predict what your .bin needs to be with their cam. They can take a pretty good guess, but do you want to drive around a good guess? Get it tuned properly after the cam is in.

You can tell them your engine and all your mods, and they can come close, but nothing is going to be 'right' except a custom tune.
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:47 pm

agree
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:35 pm

i also agree. i was going to get the Bin and build off from that
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:59 pm

BTW i got my email from ZZP my 2.9 pulley will be hear next week
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:04 am

I tell you what Corey you can put that engine in my Riv and I'll let you drive when you visit burnout
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:16 am

or you can send me your engine and trans and i can build one for you
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:01 pm

palermocorey90 wrote:
or you can send me your engine and trans and i can build one for you

than you can send me your address and i'll steal the goods from your house... and quickly swap them into the riv twisted







Or not?
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:46 pm

Hmmm... that's right Corey you finished school? How is it going, where are you working?

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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:08 pm

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or you can send me your engine and trans and i can build one for you

I'll have AA send you his and I'll get it the same way I got his STB twisted
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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:04 pm

albertj wrote:
Hmmm... that's right Corey you finished school? How is it going, where are you working?

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Mandatory cam content: can anyone tell me if the differetn cam manufacturers provide ECU programming maps to match their cams?

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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:10 pm

palermocorey90 wrote:
albertj wrote:
Hmmm... that's right Corey you finished school? How is it going, where are you working?

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PostSubject: Re: Cams & Rockers   Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:10 pm

jack i added more info to the post
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