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PostSubject: Spare?   Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:46 am

The sidewall on my spare ruptured over the summer - how much does the rubber on these things run? How do you find donuts on Tirerack?
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:13 am

I don't think they will salvage the rim. Just buy a completely new spare.

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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:29 am

Where would you get a spare for the Riv?
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:48 am

My first instinct would be to call or visit a local salvage yard and pull one from another car that used the same size. That size was likely used in dozens of models, maybe in some more recent ones. The newer the better, for obvious reasons.

Part # for spare: 9591628 (95-96), 9593686 (97-99) They used to be priced between $90-120.

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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:02 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:18 pm

AA wrote:
My first instinct would be to call or visit a local salvage yard and pull one from another car that used the same size. That size was likely used in dozens of models, maybe in some more recent ones. The newer the better, for obvious reasons.

Part # for spare: 9591628 (95-96), 9593686 (97-99) They used to be priced between $90-120.

Read the size of yours, then call a couple junkyards -- they will look up the number in their Hollander cross-reference, and most likely sell you the newest available one.
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:59 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:35 pm

buying rubber and the mounting will run you more than buying a junked spare.how did ya blow the spare?
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:02 pm

Here's where I bought my spare: http://www.aaa.com

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KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:45 pm

robotennis61 wrote:
buying rubber and the mounting will run you more than buying a junked spare.how did ya blow the spare?

It blew itself, sitting in the trunk of the car doing absolute nothing.

It's not a hole blown all the way through the tire, an outer layer of rubber ruptured.

That's why I'm disappointed to hear I can't get new rubber. Apparently these things are total crap. I sure don't want to pay nearly $100 for an old one that could go at any time (probably as soon as I need it!)
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:52 pm

I'm debating taking mine out and replacing it with an emergency roadside kit, which would be more useful, or finding a very low-profile tire/wheel combo that will fit in the well. My donut spare slowly leaks, and even filled up I wouldn't feel comfortable using it (plus it looks dumb). Haven't had a flat in years, and have AAA just in case. I always felt the donut spare was just a segue to having no spare at all. All depends on your situation, though.

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3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180Ί t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:00 pm

How about just buying another wheel and using the correct tire for a full size spare. It won't fit in the well, I know, but I never trust those donuts, except for short distances.

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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:01 pm

I wanted to see what the options are for a donut before looking at the full size option. How would you keep the full size from sliding around the trunk?
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:03 pm

Smaller rim with low profile tire, might fit in the existing well. Question is, could you put the trunk floor over it? Might be an interesting option - cut a hole in the floor, letting the tire come through.

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3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180Ί t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch


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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:26 pm

My spare was ruptured as well. Learned this after I put it on and got .1 miles down the road frown Can tire shops not replace the tire?
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:17 pm

Really, guys, best bet is call a decent junkyard... you won't be their first customer for a compact spare, it's not that big a deal and they have business reasons to sell you a good one, the best on hand that's your size. They are a standard $10.00 ($9.26 plus tax) at the pick-n-pull nearest me, any size, for the newest (or whichever) one on hand. You might even be able to pick between aluminum or steel wheels (some lux cars got aluminum wheel spares).

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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:09 am

AA wrote:
Smaller rim with low profile tire, might fit in the existing well. Question is, could you put the trunk floor over it? Might be an interesting option - cut a hole in the floor, letting the tire come through.

Make a custom cover out of fiberglass?

Make a super custom cover out of cf?

manofmany wrote:
My spare was ruptured as well. Learned this after I put it on and got .1 miles down the road frown Can tire shops not replace the tire?

That's what I'm worried about! Any of our spares could be garbage.

albertj - See above, and I got to travel hours for a pick and pull.
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:30 pm

AA wrote:
Smaller rim with low profile tire, might fit in the existing well. Question is, could you put the trunk floor over it? Might be an interesting option - cut a hole in the floor, letting the tire come through.


While I admit I haven't measured, shouldn't the spare be about the same overall diameter as the wheel/ tire? Yes it is wider for sure, but I think it might fit in the well. The cover would stick up for sure.

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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:41 pm

Pretty sure the donut is smaller in overall diameter than the wheels. I doubt you could get a full size rim & tire to fit in there, but I haven't tried.

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'98 SC Riviera • 268k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30
3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180Ί t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch


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Because fun
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:07 pm

A full size will fit.you need a longer bolt to hold her down,and spacers to allow the cover to fit.you will lose a ton of room though.I tried it!
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:59 pm

Thx. Good to know!

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3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180Ί t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails
KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers
EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch


'05 GTO • 49k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:06 am

Would it be worthwhile to look for a narrow aftermarket rim that would fit our bolt pattern and not stick up out of the tire well? Maybe a thin drag rim? Just a thought . . .
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:57 am

Jack the R wrote:
Would it be worthwhile to look for a narrow aftermarket rim that would fit our bolt pattern and not stick up out of the tire well? Maybe a thin drag rim? Just a thought . . .

Jack,
Did you look here? http://www.autopartsfair.com/buick-usedparts/riviera-1998-wheel.html?fit_notes=3efb2c4f607885203ae7e7c8f240c1d0&seq_num=1

Those prices are shipped. I just picked up a 7 spoke Chrome Riviera wheel from this website, and it was damn near perfect.

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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:15 pm

LARRY70GS wrote:
Jack the R wrote:
Would it be worthwhile to look for a narrow aftermarket rim that would fit our bolt pattern and not stick up out of the tire well? Maybe a thin drag rim? Just a thought . . .

Jack,
Did you look here? http://www.autopartsfair.com/buick-usedparts/riviera-1998-wheel.html?fit_notes=3efb2c4f607885203ae7e7c8f240c1d0&seq_num=1

Those prices are shipped. I just picked up a 7 spoke Chrome Riviera wheel from this website, and it was damn near perfect.

I wouldn't trust such old rubber.
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PostSubject: Re: Spare?   Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:51 pm

Jack the R wrote:
LARRY70GS wrote:
Jack the R wrote:
Would it be worthwhile to look for a narrow aftermarket rim that would fit our bolt pattern and not stick up out of the tire well? Maybe a thin drag rim? Just a thought . . .

Jack,
Did you look here? http://www.autopartsfair.com/buick-usedparts/riviera-1998-wheel.html?fit_notes=3efb2c4f607885203ae7e7c8f240c1d0&seq_num=1

Those prices are shipped. I just picked up a 7 spoke Chrome Riviera wheel from this website, and it was damn near perfect.

I wouldn't trust such old rubber.

OK, then it will probably cost more to get a drag rim and tire. I never looked into that.

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Best MPH, 116.06 MPH, Best ET, 11.54
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