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PostSubject: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:48 pm

My power antenna on my 97 Riv is toast. I'm not really a fan of power antennas, so has any one replaced it with a shorter normal antenna, or just a normal antenna? Or, at the very least, where can I get a good antenna without spending tons of money? I'd rather not have a power antenna though, like I said.

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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:20 pm

I bought a universal at local auto place for $15. No power, works great and easy to install. Only negative is that is does not go down flush to the rear fender so an automated car wash will break it.
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:28 pm

Anyone else?
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:38 pm

When my power antenna failed (raise/lower cable broken), I merely removed the motor from the support structure, lowered the antenna, clipped the internal cable, and reinstalled it. I can raise and lower it manually, and it gets just as good reception as it did before. I keep it lowered b/c I usually listen to XM thru the tape deck. It still receives FM decently while lowered. AM not so much. But once extended, it works as well as it always did, AM or FM. It also sits flush, so it is car wash safe.
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:14 pm

That's a great idea, except my antenna is missing most of the mast as well. frown

Anyone have an old power antenna? Haha.
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:54 am

Has anyone considered using an antenna off a GP? They are nice and hidden. smile
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:20 am

Mattwa wrote:
That's a great idea, except my antenna is missing most of the mast as well. frown

Anyone have an old power antenna? Haha.

there are "replacement" power antennas that you can wire in.

What I did: I got a used power antenna from Ed Morad, moradpartscompany.com, I think he pulled it off a Park Avenue. Why not find a used one?

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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:42 am

albertj wrote:
Mattwa wrote:
That's a great idea, except my antenna is missing most of the mast as well. frown

Anyone have an old power antenna? Haha.

there are "replacement" power antennas that you can wire in.

What I did: I got a used power antenna from Ed Morad, moradpartscompany.com, I think he pulled it off a Park Avenue. Why not find a used one?

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I was just throwing that out there incase people got sick of the eye sore when it's up. wink
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:59 am

Selcouth wrote:
albertj wrote:
Mattwa wrote:
That's a great idea, except my antenna is missing most of the mast as well. frown

Anyone have an old power antenna? Haha.

there are "replacement" power antennas that you can wire in.

What I did: I got a used power antenna from Ed Morad, moradpartscompany.com, I think he pulled it off a Park Avenue. Why not find a used one?

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I was just throwing that out there incase people got sick of the eye sore when it's up. wink

makes sense to me - likewise I threw this out there because used power antennas usually go for short money.
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:04 pm

I got an aftermarket power antenna from an outfit in Florida. Had it for about 6 months and no problems so far. It took a bit of messin` around with the included bracket but with a little imagination , done. Can`t tell the difference except it sounds different going up & down. About $100 delivered to Canada.
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:13 pm

I used this one. works a thousand times better than the OEM

http://www.jegs.com/i/Mr.+Gasket/720/6100/10002/-1

i covered the antenna hole and painted over.
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:17 pm

I got an aftermarket power antenna from an outfit in Florida. Had it for about 6 months and no problems so far. It took a bit of messin` around with the included bracket but with a little imagination , done. Can`t tell the difference except it sounds different going up & down. About $100 delivered to Canada.
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:39 pm

I myself sometimes get sick of this power antennas and am thinking to try without one,but still wanna listen to radio.So what's the best way to not have the antenna up without cutting wires ?
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:59 pm

stan wrote:
I myself sometimes get sick of this power antennas and am thinking to try without one,but still wanna listen to radio.So what's the best way to not have the antenna up without cutting wires ?


Do what i did.my am fm reception is (no exageration) outstanding.  You can leave the mast in place in the down position just unlpug it and run the aftermarket antenna direct to the back of the oem radio. no fuss. I run mine directly behind the rearview mirror ,hard to tell its there.only a little red led lite to tell you its on.


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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:58 pm

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I got an aftermarket power antenna from an outfit in Florida. Had it for about 6 months and no problems so far. It took a bit of messin` around with the included bracket but with a little imagination , done. Can`t tell the difference except it sounds different going up & down. About $100 delivered to Canada.

you can get an aftermarket power antenna for about half that, the Metra PW-22. I installed and used one for a while, worked fine, actually sold it and bought a used OE antenna from Ed Morad some years ago (once I figured out why the original broke in the first place). I am currently running the OE antenna.

Robo's solution will work just fine. It's what you'd call a "dipole" antenna, appears to have a built-in amplifier, dipoles they are kinda directional but in the direction aimed will receive signals from a lot farther away. My guess is it's a 1/2 wave dual helical dipole. If matched right to the radio those things will pick up a 10 watt FM station at about 5-6 miles depending on terrain. The roof of the car forms a "ground plane" - don't mount it too close to the ground plane. Behind the interior rearview mirror an inch or so below the roofline should work great. I wonder if there is a good chance it'd work acceptably mounted behind the grill or under the front or rear bumper skin if you can get it about an inch away from the metal bumper reinforcement, if it is slim enough to fit. I can't tell from the picture, and maybe not such a great idea behind a metallic or zinc-laden paint.

There is also this antenna available from various eBay sellers:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Hidden-AM-FM-Car-Radio-Windshield-Antenna-NEW-/190712883734#vi-content

They say mount it anywhere, I would not be so fast to do so. Maybe in a window or behind a plastic body panel. or maybe along the top of the rear window or in the vicinity of a side marker light. It looks like it would have to be kept away from any ground plane (hood, trunk, roof, fender) somewhat.



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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:23 pm

.....i read somewhere that the higher the antenna is placed the better.i think i read that on the antenna web site.i have the wires routed along the top of the headliner inside, and down the windshield piller and along the dash,i removed the uppermost section,and to the radio. like so....







it dont look too shabby.the little red LED is pretty cool late at night

I accidentally broke the little doohiky that covers the rearview mirror wires so..if i find another one i'll have to come up with something else.i like the clean look but ..oh well...


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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:37 pm

In general, the higher an antenna is placed, the better.

If you measured you'd probably be about an inch below the metal roof panel.

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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:38 pm

yup
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:11 pm

Interesting-interesting...I don't care for all the radio stations, but want to have some radio.Only now I think when the antenna's up looks ugly a bit,so that's why I'm thinking of trying it without it.
So what do you guys think is the best way to have the antenna down and still have radio?....
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:22 pm

stan wrote:
Interesting-interesting...I don't care for all the radio stations, but want to have some radio.Only now I think when the antenna's up looks ugly a bit,so that's why I'm thinking of trying it without it.
So what do you guys think is the best way to have the antenna down and still have radio?....

unplug the oem antenna. do plug in an aftermarket antenna like mine or other. you NeeD an antenna if your going to listen to the radio.
there is a place in england called www.halfords.com nice place with alot of different types of car antennas.you can gleen alot of info there and maybe find similar here in the US
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PostSubject: Used Jeg,s windshield antenna.   Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:05 pm

Went with the Jegs, antenna, put the antenna on the windshield, but over by the passenger side. That way could feed the ground wire to one of the screws for the passenger visor.
Note: the antenna did not fit in the radio, needed an adapter "Motorola to GM Antenna Adapter, Motorola type connector to GM mini plug" P/N 64-3025, MFG Philmore.
My 1998 Riv, has the original radio, as long as it was out, disassembled the radio and replaced all but one of the soldered in background lights, same bulbs as the heater contol in another thread. (Has a funky ribbon cable from the radio to the control head, easy to get out of the main board.)
Found on the radio schematic on my GM manual disc and hooked the antenna power wire to the antenna 12V red wire,
The radio seems to work fine, nice to have a red power light on the antenna.
Bruce in AK/WI/Afghanistan
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:50 pm

Just a thought. Has anyone tried melting the nylon cord back together? I just tried it, but I can't report on weather or not it works because I mucked up the position sensor. Motor only runs for like 2 sec on startup/shutdown.
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:54 am

I wonder if this kit would work with our antennas?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delco-Cadillac-SEVILLE-Power-Antenna-Mast-CABLE-NEW-GM-/330590475778?hash=item4cf8ba5602&item=330590475778&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:18 am

For a couple bucks more you could just get one of those universal power antennas. For that price I don't think it would be worth trying to fix it unless you had to have the original antenna. Comparing it to our antenna internals, it looks like it may work. Maybe go to a junkyard and pull an antenna off of a Seville, see if it's the same.
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PostSubject: Re: Antenna replacement, Aftermarket?   Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:18 am

Back in the 80's and 90's I replaced several of these antenna masts when people would break them off. If the motor works well, then it is a good repair. The motor works on a circuit breaker that senses when the mast is fully retracted or extended. You will need two people to install the new mast. One to hold and guide the mast in and one to cycle the radio on and off repeatedly until it goes all the way down. If my memory serves me, removing the antenna bezel nut allows removal of the old mast and cable. The new unit should come with instructions or possibly our fsm has this info. Good luck!
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