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PostSubject: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptySat Jul 10, 2021 2:50 pm

Hello all

I have a 1996 Riviera SC, my daily driver and a 98 parts car.

the 96 has almost 250k miles and the front suspension shows it. cracked rubber bushings, grease leaking from a few places, some noises and vibration.

My question, are these any good? https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=60820&cc=1022038&pt=7584&jsn=884

MONROE 71822 {#931822} OESpectrum  Front; Replaces Strut Assemblies without a Lower Spring Seat Bracket.

In general, for our cars replacing control arms is preferable to trying to replace just the bushings and ball joint correct? Does this look like a good part at a good price? Amazon says it fits 96 Riv.

https://www.amazon.com/Extra-Mevotech-MS20328-Control-Joint/dp/B001NZATJ8/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=control+arm&pd_rd_r=8434734b-b88e-4c7d-a572-07359983781a&pd_rd_w=kr0qB&pd_rd_wg=VmtQQ&pf_rd_p=bec88bc8-d41e-4895-a8dc-a35e165b8995&pf_rd_r=2VBJEQYXD6MEWQ4QMXN8&pid=86AhLfD&qid=1625942843&sr=1-5&vehicle=1996-45-394-20--7-6-5--377-1-1-129--&vehicleName=1996+Buick+Riviera

If anyone knows anything about quick struts I'd prefer to go that route.

All thoughts, advice, criticism I'm all ears. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptySat Jul 10, 2021 6:22 pm

Gabriel's have the correct ride height but they have a defective mount, I replaced several of them until I got GM mounts. Now the car rides awesome.
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PostSubject: Re: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2021 2:54 pm

The monroes I linked to are struts only. I would keep my original springs.

Do any of the other manufactures  (mevotech, kyb, Monroe ect.) Make decent strut mounts?

Should I buy the loaded mevotech lower control arms or replace bushings and ball joints.
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PostSubject: Re: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptyTue Jul 13, 2021 12:24 am

Moog was good when I put mine on. I've heard they've gone downhill.

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PostSubject: Re: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptyFri Jul 16, 2021 7:49 am

my opinion would be to avoid quick struts. I put them on a Regal and they really changed the ride height(raised it). I have seen others have the same experience with Riv's on this board.
my .02

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PostSubject: Re: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptyFri Jul 16, 2021 9:21 am

Thanks for the info so far.

Any opinions on the Mevotech control arms or Mevotech in general?
Replace control arms or get bushings for existing control arms?
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PostSubject: Re: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptyFri Jul 16, 2021 5:16 pm

I can't speak for me vo tech but Moog makes a standard and professional loaded a arm. I had very bad luck with aftermarket mounts, GM mounts made a huge difference. Monroe quick struts are 2" in too high.

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PostSubject: Re: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptySat Jul 17, 2021 5:15 am

jbird wrote:
my opinion would be to avoid quick struts. I put them on a Regal and they really changed the ride height(raised it). I have seen others have the same experience with Riv's on this board.
my .02

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maybe the reason is probably the old stock ones have sagged so much, the brand new struts may just appear to raise the car. i had to replace my struts with monte carlo struts in order to fit the aluminum spindles & run bigger brakes. i had to drill new holes for the strut mount, but i noticed my ride height in front is lower now. or maybe y’all might have better luck buying the struts and springs separately so u have more control of ur ride height
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PostSubject: Re: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptySat Jul 17, 2021 11:16 am

carguy8888 wrote:
I can't speak for me vo tech but Moog makes a standard and professional loaded a arm. I had very bad luck with aftermarket mounts, GM mounts made a huge difference. Monroe quick struts are 2" in too high.

I've not been able to find moog control arms for my 1998 1996 Riv. Are you suggesting I replace bushings and ball joint on my existing control arms?


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I'll look up the part numbers when I get a chance for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptySat Jul 17, 2021 3:24 pm

knoxbroadcaster wrote:
carguy8888 wrote:
I can't speak for me vo tech but Moog makes a standard and professional loaded a arm. I had very bad luck with aftermarket mounts, GM mounts made a huge difference. Monroe quick struts are 2" in too high.

I've not been able to find moog control arms for my 1998 Riv. Are you suggesting I replace bushings and ball joint on my existing control arms?


https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/buick,1998,riviera,3.8l+v6+supercharged,1303322,suspension,control+arm,10401

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4203045&cc=1303322&pt=10401&jsn=445

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4203831&cc=1303322&pt=10401&jsn=446

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PostSubject: Re: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptySat Jul 17, 2021 3:32 pm

LARRY70GS wrote:
knoxbroadcaster wrote:
carguy8888 wrote:
I can't speak for me vo tech but Moog makes a standard and professional loaded a arm. I had very bad luck with aftermarket mounts, GM mounts made a huge difference. Monroe quick struts are 2" in too high.

I've not been able to find moog control arms for my 1998 Riv. Are you suggesting I replace bushings and ball joint on my existing control arms?


https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/buick,1998,riviera,3.8l+v6+supercharged,1303322,suspension,control+arm,10401

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4203045&cc=1303322&pt=10401&jsn=445

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4203831&cc=1303322&pt=10401&jsn=446

Thanks for the links Larry but an oh crap on my part, that should read 1996 Riv. . Sorry bout that
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PostSubject: Re: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptySat Jul 17, 2021 7:48 pm

knoxbroadcaster wrote:
LARRY70GS wrote:
knoxbroadcaster wrote:
carguy8888 wrote:
I can't speak for me vo tech but Moog makes a standard and professional loaded a arm. I had very bad luck with aftermarket mounts, GM mounts made a huge difference. Monroe quick struts are 2" in too high.

I've not been able to find moog control arms for my 1998 Riv. Are you suggesting I replace bushings and ball joint on my existing control arms?


https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/buick,1998,riviera,3.8l+v6+supercharged,1303322,suspension,control+arm,10401

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4203045&cc=1303322&pt=10401&jsn=445

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4203831&cc=1303322&pt=10401&jsn=446




Thanks for the links Larry but an oh crap on my part, that should read 1996 Riv. . Sorry bout that

Ooops, lmao

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PostSubject: Re: Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My!   Control arms, ball joints, and struts Oh My! EmptyTue Aug 10, 2021 6:39 pm

I used KYB struts and had no issues with ride height or anything. I do know now 50k miles later they are worn completely from hard cornering. I would go that route and change all other parts(bearing, bellow, mount) that way you have the most stable suspension and not prematurely wear out a part or have to do it AGAIN! It's no fun but worth the battle.
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