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PostSubject: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 5:25 pm

alright what do you guys think about this idea:

- supercharged srt4 engine in a Rivy -

or

- putting a v6 mustang motor in there -

idk if teh mustang engine would fit but it would give me a wider variety of performance parts


lmk wht you guys think....

cause im not paying someone 2,800 just to repair that headache they call an engine
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 5:29 pm

GM only there are alot of other issues you won't want to deal with.
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 5:30 pm

step 1 run for cover.

step 2 get a flame retardant blanket.

Step 3 you might feel the flames
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 5:35 pm

Skip those and go for the 5.3L LS4 Small Block blown engine, wtd now?? Yup
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 5:38 pm

Used, low mile L67 replacement? Plenty of performance options for the 3800 supercharged.

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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 5:43 pm

I promise you won't have an easy or cheap time trying either of those engine swaps. The GM 3800 is a strong reliable engine if it's properly maintained. They are not expensive from a salvage yard, normally.
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 5:44 pm

L67 wrote:
Skip those and go for the 5.3L LS4 Small Block blown engine, wtd now?? Yup

ew this sounds interesting...
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 5:44 pm

That junky 3.8 in the Junkstang is so underpowered, it's only 190 hp but it's even weaker. You'd need a new tranny too, and it wouldn't be worth it. The car is made for the GM 3800, drop another in it or get rid of it. You'll only make the car trash if you go dropping those motors in it. Any power given from an SRT turbo motor (Don't know if you meant turbo as it comes or actually supercharging the same motor - I don't think hardly anyone has done this, it's fast with the turbo and built for it so no reason to S/C it instead) would be lost because the car is heavier than the SRT4 Neon.

Really, the only thing worth dropping in is the 5.3 as Matt suggested. Otherwise just drop another 3800 in, if you don't think it has enough performance options you're not looking hard enough.
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 6:07 pm

alright i found a 2007 Tahoe engine on craigslist its a 5.3L flex fuel engine.

would i b able to swap it in??
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 6:13 pm

No, you would have to get one from an Impala SS, Monte Carlo SS, Grand Prix GXP, or LaCrosse Super. The 5.3 from the Tahoe will not work in a FWD application.
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 6:15 pm

L67 wrote:
No, you would have to get one from an Impala SS, Monte Carlo SS, Grand Prix GXP, or LaCrosse Super. The 5.3 from the Tahoe will not work in a FWD application.

yea. i just read that engine was for AWD.
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 6:26 pm

But honestly it would still be too much work anyways. Just go for a 3800.
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyThu Mar 05, 2009 6:56 pm

honestly you can build a decently powered 3800 engine, like my regal has for not much more then 2000
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyFri Mar 06, 2009 4:16 pm

The 3800 is IMO one of the most reliable engines ever built. I'm assuming you have a '95, therefore a Series I engine. If you really want some more performance, get a later model Series II 3800, there are plenty of perf. parts available for it and the swap will be much much easier. You'll probably want the newer transmission to go with it... and a performance rebuild on that.
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyFri Mar 06, 2009 4:51 pm

deekster_caddy wrote:
The 3800 is IMO one of the most reliable engines ever built. I'm assuming you have a '95, therefore a Series I engine. If you really want some more performance, get a later model Series II 3800, there are plenty of perf. parts available for it and the swap will be much much easier. You'll probably want the newer transmission to go with it... and a performance rebuild on that.

nope got a 97 series 2
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyFri Mar 06, 2009 4:56 pm

Then why do you want a totally different motor? Its a very cost effective motor to mod.
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptyFri Mar 06, 2009 9:54 pm

Or just replace with a used one. The 3800 SII is very reliable, a 60K used motor will probably last another 10 years easy, even modded. What performance parts are hard to get for the SII? What do you want? Heads? Pistons? Cams? It's all available...
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptySat Mar 07, 2009 6:44 pm

if you need helping finding something, i can help you pick out the perfect, combo. i have drove, and rode in many different combos, anything from a GT1 N/A cam to a NIC to a statama stage 4. im sure i can help you make up your mind.
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PostSubject: Re: blown engine, wtd now??   blown engine, wtd now?? EmptySun Mar 08, 2009 11:45 pm

why would you ever ditch the 3800 series?!? These motors have everything going for them. Srt-4 motors are complete crap, so are the mustang 3.8's they have nothing going for them at all.
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