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seviper22 Rookie
Name : Kyle Age : 35 Location : Clarksburg WV. Joined : 2009-11-08 Post Count : 15 Merit : 0
| Subject: sputtering Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:14 pm | |
| 96'riv sc its sputtering real bad when i put my foot into it im loosing alot of power and its aggrivating me any help | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: sputtering Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:57 pm | |
| need some more details please. i'll go ahead and assume it's a supercharged motor. Sounds like an ignition component has failed. how new are the plugs and wires? are you getting a code? (SES light) do you have the ability to get it scanned? can you describe what the car is doing better? does it do it at idle, or only past XX RPM? does it do it in neutral and in drive? Are all the vac lines in good shape? sorry to answer your question with a bunch more questions, but this is all pertinent info when trying to diagnose something over the internet. Matthew _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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LARRY70GS Aficionado
Name : Larry Age : 68 Location : Oakland Gardens, NY Joined : 2007-01-23 Post Count : 2193 Merit : 150
| Subject: Re: sputtering Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:57 pm | |
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seviper22 Rookie
Name : Kyle Age : 35 Location : Clarksburg WV. Joined : 2009-11-08 Post Count : 15 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: sputtering Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:34 pm | |
| it does it accelerating at any above 1.5k rmp and its only if i put it to the floor im not getting the power i want and the lines are good no ses light. plugs are fairly new and wires arent to new. doesnt do it in idle only when excel.. with foot down.. in 2 3 and drive.. i have 2.25 thrush exuast duals on back end im just wondering could it be to much restriction or bad fuel inj. bad plugs or wires or any other reason you all could think of..
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seviper22 Rookie
Name : Kyle Age : 35 Location : Clarksburg WV. Joined : 2009-11-08 Post Count : 15 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: sputtering Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:35 pm | |
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ibmoses Aficionado
Name : Bert Location : North Alabama Joined : 2008-02-03 Post Count : 1701 Merit : 32
| Subject: Re: sputtering Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:43 pm | |
| Unless you have already done so you could replace the fuel filter. Cheap and easy to do. Bert | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: sputtering Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:47 pm | |
| could be bad plugs or wire or coil pack or not enough fuel (dirty fuel filter or injectors) I would start with the cheapest and work up. A set of autolite 104 copper plugs work well and cost about $12. that will rule them out. how new are the wires and what brand are they. if they are almost anything other than acdelo trade them for a new set of the delco's ($34). It's good maintenance if anything to put in a new fuel filter ($15). You are using premium gas and have a clean air filter right? _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: sputtering Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:24 am | |
| It could be a lot of things. You need to be very specific about the conditions when it happens. You haven't told us what year your car is, which can be a factor. Is the check engine light on? Another clue. Your mufflers are probably not a restriction unless something is very wrong with them. Did this start just after installing the mufflers?
Please don't make us guess, and please use full english. Txt-spk is very hard to get a point across clearly and efficiently. Your computer has a full keyboard, please use it. This is not a chat room.
It could be a lot of things, and without more information there's very little we can do but guess. | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: sputtering Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:29 am | |
| _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^
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T Riley Guru
Name : Travis Age : 34 Location : Minnesconsin Joined : 2007-02-08 Post Count : 5127 Merit : 10
| Subject: Re: sputtering Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:38 am | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: sputtering Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:41 pm | |
| - deekster_caddy wrote:
- It could be a lot of things. You need to be very specific about the conditions when it happens. You haven't told us what year your car is, which can be a factor. Is the check engine light on? Another clue. Your mufflers are probably not a restriction unless something is very wrong with them. Did this start just after installing the mufflers?
Please don't make us guess, and please use full english. Txt-spk is very hard to get a point across clearly and efficiently. Your computer has a full keyboard, please use it. This is not a chat room.
It could be a lot of things, and without more information there's very little we can do but guess. I understand what you are trying to say, but go easy on new guys. He did tell us what year the car was. Also, he did mentioned the CEL was not on.(Granted, after it was asked) Matthew _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: sputtering Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:45 pm | |
| I agree with the above. If you've seen this problem first hand, there's enough info in the first post to make a diagnosis. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: sputtering Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:00 pm | |
| - Mr.Riviera wrote:
- deekster_caddy wrote:
- It could be a lot of things. You need to be very specific about the conditions when it happens. You haven't told us what year your car is, which can be a factor. Is the check engine light on? Another clue. Your mufflers are probably not a restriction unless something is very wrong with them. Did this start just after installing the mufflers?
Please don't make us guess, and please use full english. Txt-spk is very hard to get a point across clearly and efficiently. Your computer has a full keyboard, please use it. This is not a chat room.
It could be a lot of things, and without more information there's very little we can do but guess. I understand what you are trying to say, but go easy on new guys. He did tell us what year the car was. Also, he did mentioned the CEL was not on.(Granted, after it was asked)
Matthew Sorry, I was rushing through the thread and found his description very hard to understand. I missed the year in the first post. I do not want to be the grammar police, but text-speak drives me nuts, especially in a car forum where it is beneficial to all to be descriptive, clear and understandable. If you are telling me this in a text message, and brevity is required, that's different. To the OP - I apologize for criticizing your description. Obviously it was good enough. | |
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seviper22 Rookie
Name : Kyle Age : 35 Location : Clarksburg WV. Joined : 2009-11-08 Post Count : 15 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: sputtering Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:18 pm | |
| hey sorry bout that.. its a 96' supercharged buick riviera and it is sputtering, it does it accelerating at any rpm above 1500 and its only if i put it to the floor im not getting the power i want and the lines are good no ses light. plugs are fairly new and wires arent to new. doesnt do it in idle only when excel.. with foot down.. in 2 3 and drive... sorry for the txt type but i understand thanks for the curtesy notice im new mann.. but thanks all for the help. and again sorry. if i can find anything else for more detailed explaination i will post | |
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seviper22 Rookie
Name : Kyle Age : 35 Location : Clarksburg WV. Joined : 2009-11-08 Post Count : 15 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: sputtering Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:20 pm | |
| and no the exahust had nothing to do with the sputtering it was doing it before i installed it | |
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Mr.Riviera Expert
Name : Matthew Age : 38 Location : Florida Joined : 2007-01-17 Post Count : 4394 Merit : 101
| Subject: Re: sputtering Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:26 pm | |
| Get the recommended plugs and wires in the car. Uses ACDELCO Part # 746R for the wires and Autolite 104 copper plugs. Get them at the local auto parts store. You can also get the wires for a good price from rockauto
Change them out and let us know if the problem is still there. You should probably get a new fuel filter in the car too if you dont know when it was changed last. It probably is not the problem, but would be good to rule it out. _________________ 1996 with 254k miles, L32 4" FWI -> ported N* -> Ported Gen V w/3.0" Pulley, Stage 3 Phenolic I/C, ZZP FMHE, 1.84 RR, Headers and 3" pipe to mufflers, F-body brakes, and lowered on Eibachs. -RIP AMG C400 White on black. Stage 2 w/E30 - 11.9@117 -daily | |
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AA Administrator
Name : Aaron Age : 47 Location : C-bus, Ohio Joined : 2007-01-13 Post Count : 18452 Merit : 252
| Subject: Re: sputtering Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:31 pm | |
| Kyle, it's the ignition wires. Even if they don't look bad, there are small cracks that you can't see. It's confusing to diagnose because you'd think ignition wires would either work or they wouldn't, but our SC engines use a lower voltage spark for "unspirited" driving, and a hotter spark for when you push the engine into boost. This means you'll run fine until the engine requires hotter spark - then it's too much for the old wires, and... sputter.
Plugs are probably fine - doesn't matter if wires are bad.
OEM AC/Delco wires are good for another 100k miles. You need a set anyway, so might as well. Rockauto has good prices. _________________ '05 GTO 6.0L • 6-spd • 95k miles • 0-60: 4.8s • 16.9 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:26'95 Celica GT 2.2L • 5-spd • 165k miles • 0-60: yes'98 SC Riviera • 281k miles • 298 HP/370 TQ • 0-60: 5.79s • ET: 13.97 @ 99.28 • 4087 lb • 20.1 avg MPG • Nelson Ledges Lap: 1:30 3.4" pulley • AL104 plugs • 180º t-stat • FWI w/K&N • 1.9:1 rockers • OR pushrods • LS6 valve springs • SLP headers • ZZP fuel rails KYB GR2 struts • MaxAir shocks • Addco sway bars • UMI bushings • GM STB • Enkei 18" EV5s w/ Dunlop DZ101s • F-body calipers EBC bluestuff/Hawk HP plus • SS lines • Brembo slotted discs • DHP tuned • Aeroforce • Hidden Hitch^^^ SOLD ^^^ '70 Ninety-Eight Holiday Coupe 455cid • 116k miles^^^ SOLD ^^^ | |
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seviper22 Rookie
Name : Kyle Age : 35 Location : Clarksburg WV. Joined : 2009-11-08 Post Count : 15 Merit : 0
| Subject: Re: sputtering Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:47 pm | |
| thank you guys ill post back when i get them changed out | |
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deekster_caddy Master
Name : Derek Age : 52 Location : Reading, MA Joined : 2007-01-31 Post Count : 7717 Merit : 109
| Subject: Re: sputtering Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:16 am | |
| Did the sputtering start with the recent spark plugs? I've had a cracked plug insulator before exhibiting the same as you describe. But the wires should be suspect as well. Replace the wires, and I recommend inspecting the plugs again while you have the wires off. | |
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