turbo'd 3800 thoughts.

97rivsc wrote:

well my dreams kind of came to a halt today when turbo tim at zzp told me that the turbo kits will not fit a riviera........ouch anyway I have to rethink my strategy a little bit. anyone know of a different vendor who sells turbo kits for the l67?

Well that doesn't surprise me. The kit is made for a w-body. The turbo itself would fit, but you would need all custom ducting and intercooler mounting. Nobody sells that kind of "kit" for the riv.

well im not so sure if im gonna go ahead and do this then........there are really no place around here that could help me out with this. and they also told me that aren't sure if they would be able to tune my pcm for it.

Who told you they wouldn't be able to tune your pcm?

Hptuners will tune a 97 riv. Even us 96s have dhp, given its not available anymore , it can still be found used.

turbo tim from zzp

As many of us have here have discovered, the 3800 performance industry is focused mainly on GTPs and Regal GSs - there are more of these cars on the road, which means better sales potential. Because they do not have knowledge about Rivieras, they will side with caution and say their product won't work. It doesn't mean it can't be done.

INTENSE told me they could not install my exhaust headers (they hadn't done it before), so I bought the product from them and installed myself. Not too hard to do. Ed Morad seemed impressed with the fit.

so AA you're saying that I should go ahead and try to fit the z3 kit?

He wouldn't say that. YOU need to decide if you want to go to expense of a custom $$$$ turbo setup on a car that has no kit availaible to bolt on.

You say you're aiming for 400hp, but how fast do you want to run? You probably don't need to go turbo if mainly a DD car.

its gonna be a dd car, but im aiming more for hp than times guys. plus in all honesty.......i don't know the first thing about drag racing other than smash the pedal and go. I just want to make a sweet gen-8 turbo riv. I LOVE GRAND NATIONALS

Well they said the Z3 works on bonnevilles , so it definitely seems possible that it could fit the rivs , although i wouldn't expect it to fit perfectly , but it could work.

Fortunately for me , there's a place about an hour north of me that has built a custom turbo kit of a regal ( which makes well over 500whp , should be close or above 600whp when all is said and done , on pump) so i might send that guy a Pm and see how much they would charge to get a custom kit made...one of these days.

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He wouldn't say that. YOU need to decide if you want to go to expense of a custom $$$$ turbo setup on a car that has no kit availaible to bolt on.

Anything can be done if you have the money. That kit may not bolt on, but it could be a good start. You're going to need some modifications, though. Other than John Schmitt's TT drag car, I don't think anyone's put a turbo in an 8th gen Riviera.

so then maybe I can be the first!!!!

Unless you want to pay a LOT of money, I suggest you check out some books on turbos and learn how they work. Also, look at other turbo 3800 cars and see how they fit everything under the hood.

Yeah, do the research before spending the dough. Gotta say though, I don't personally see the practicality of 400hp FWD in a DD Riviera. Do you know what 400hp will behave like on the street in a FWD car? I can see if it was going to the strip now and then...

Not trying to discourage you though, have at it!

not in a fwd car but yes i know what it is like and i personally love it

So i was thinking about taking my supercharger out and putting a turbo in. I was wondering what you guys thought?

MexicoMafiaMan wrote:

So i was thinking about taking my supercharger out and putting a turbo in. I was wondering what you guys thought?

You should get the riviera first, then turbo it, yes

1998 Riv wrote:

Do you know what 400hp will behave like on the street in a FWD car?

Isn't ewolfe around 400 hp? I don't hear him complaining. I asked him about torque steer and he said it wasn't a problem.

By the time you buy a GenV blower, IC and all accomanying parts to install it you are about the same price point as a basic turbo kit. Turbos require someone who really knows what they are doing to tune it, though. Turbos have the potential to make more power overall.

I've tinkered with a couple of turbo'd 3800 cars and when done right it's worth the effort.

wow just looked up that under ''behain back bumper turbo setup''
newer toght about it. but
when the turbo is far away...logicaly....it would take longer time to rev it up? cos..the pressure in the exhaust pipe takes time to fill it up whit enaf pressure for reving the turbo up?

truy to blow on something whit a loooong straw...before it starts to move you need to blow alot air for long time lol.
so this turbo setup would have a big lagg?

well i did not read all what they sayd on the page..and they anyways tell its GOOD good and GOOD!..but not about the bad things.
wonder where the hell to but all those extra pipes under the car.
they defendly will have some lower temperatures and it would be a bit easyer to install but much expenciver.

but a good idea.


have been thinking tho...how cool a twincharged riv could be.
would rev up so much faster.
but would need to use a other charger what isent connected whit the intake manufault like the eaton SC's are. and istead of a normal bulley should use same type one what the climate controlls have. a ellectromacnetic bulley or how every they are called.

in finland one crazy guy made one nice twincharged monster lol!...
a litle toyota.